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04 Feb 2013 23:43 #1 by Klipkopwildlife
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I've just started a thread in Building, and realised that we're not starting at the beginning! Without a proper board your model is not going to be straight, and if it isn't straight it's never going to fly well!


Ok, this is a building board, and, you may find it expensive! Without it you're going to be even worse off! Let's look into it.


We start with a piece of Super wood, 16mm thick, select at your local B&Q. I chose 1metre x 530mm wide, look at your piece closely, make sure it's not warped or twisted. This building board will take you up to 80inch models. I advise you not to use chip board, it's not stable enough in a humid climate!
Now take two pieces of angle iron, I used 50mm x 50mm and screw them firmly to the back of your fledgling board, I use self cut chipboard screws, they've got a really deep thread that bites!


This is the hard bit, you have to find 6mm cork gasket material, your local Motor spares emporium should get it for you, but it will be expensive

Do it now, you may never get another chance
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04 Feb 2013 23:53 #2 by old fart
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Or alternatively you could just buy a piece of blockboard or even an interior flush door. :)

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04 Feb 2013 23:53 #3 by Klipkopwildlife
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Cut your cork to the right size. Now you need some Jesus glue, clean the top of your board nicely and spray your Jesus glue (3M spray contact adhesive) on the cork and the board, wait 10 minutes. Then get someone to help you carefully place the cork on the board, it won't matter if it's not absolutely straight, but it would be nice. :) If it's not straight you're going to find out why I call it Jesus glue!


Voila! A building board, I find 'T' pins are a bit thick for smaller models, but Mapping pins work well.


Then you just need an old table or support, then you can build while she's watching Telly. Tell her it's all about togetherness!


Do it now, you may never get another chance
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04 Feb 2013 23:57 - 04 Feb 2013 23:59 #4 by Eric
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Cork sheet - model railway shop!

Superboard? Is that a SA product, I don't recognise it.
For railways, that require a dead flat surface, .75 inch MARINE ply is recommended. That is rather heavy, though, so a good alternative is thick MDF, thoroughly sealed and varnished, then mounted on a 2 x 1 frame with diagonal cross-members. (Underneath, of course!) glued and screwed.
Rule - if it isn't flat to begin with, it won't be flat when you've finished!
The cork is so you can stick pins in!

p.s. - did that Zebra mind you borrowing it's skin? :P

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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05 Feb 2013 00:25 - 05 Feb 2013 00:31 #5 by THE BLACKBIRD
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I use two lengths of 30mm kitchen worktops




With 12mm plasterboard laid on top


And at the moment or during the winter i have my building table from outside


It gives me one top 2600mm long and one 2100 long and the table :) :)
Its a mess under the table i have all my tools and stuff from the b----dy bathroom there :(
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05 Feb 2013 23:40 #6 by Klipkopwildlife
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Eric, Superwood is just strips of 16mm x 50mm pine clamped and glued together, then given a swift rub down. It's available in a variety of widths and is commonly used for shelving. And the Zebra practically died of old age! After seeing him laying in one place for a week (starving, no teeth) I couldn't stand it any longer and sent him to the big grassland in the sky! I decided to have the skin properly tanned and backed so that his life would continue to give me pleasure!
BB, the Plaster board (called Gypsum board out here) is an excellent idea! And so much cheaper! Just don't glue it to the base board, it's not as durable as cork.
Mr O.F. interior doors are good, I once had one hinged on the wall, just not very portable. :)

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06 Feb 2013 00:09 #7 by Eric
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Superboard - sounds like what we call blockboard.

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08 Nov 2015 08:07 - 08 Nov 2015 08:10 #8 by boz
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I'm in the process of building a workshop and wanted to put ply on the top, to give a good flat surface to build on, would you put a Cork layer on top of that? Or plasterboard, as shown? My bench is going to be 10ft by 3ft, boz
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08 Nov 2015 08:17 - 08 Nov 2015 09:28 #9 by boz
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Workshop

coffin dodger, so far!!
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08 Nov 2015 08:23 - 08 Nov 2015 09:27 #10 by Ex-Member
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I use various pieces of 1/2" (12mm) block board cut into lengths suitable for models from about 60" span down to whatever I want. I don't add cork. The blockboard will accept pins readily and they won't come out too easily, so they provide a good jig for the model I'm building. I find that cork is too soft to do that. All my boards are non-fixed, so I can move them round to clear the bench for different projects and different builds. I stack them either flat or upright when not in use to prevent any warping or twisting.

Plywood should be fine, Boz, provided that it's flat. I would also take a few modelling pins to the builders merchants and see how the plywood accepts and grips them.
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08 Nov 2015 08:37 #11 by Ex-Member
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i use plaster board myself, but Andy's suggestion is a good one.

going to be a nice workshop sir.

mind you in a short while you will need a bigger on as that one will be full of models. :P

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08 Nov 2015 12:31 #12 by boz
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Perhaps I need to be a bit clearer, do I need a separate board to build on, I was thinking that the whole length of the bench, 10ft would be the board, I have another side to the workshop of the same length, for other stuff, plenty of roof space, and under bench storage, I'm interested in the one side at moment, re building board :blush: ;)

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08 Nov 2015 13:11 #13 by Ex-Member
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just screw or glue down a board on top of your work bench.
i only use plaster board as it is cheap.
i screw a new sheet down every now and then and just dump the old bit when it is worn out.

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08 Nov 2015 15:36 #14 by Eric
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Chipboard is hygroscopic. If it gets damp, it will swell up, and eventually the glue that is bonding the particles - fails. It will crumble at the edges and corners first, and unless it is VERY well supported, it will sag in between frames, so if you look at it from an edge, it will look like a sketch of the Pennines!
Take a scrap bit, screw it to a batten at one end, put the batten in a vice, so the chipboard is unsupported anywhere else, wet it, and let it dry, a few times, then see for yourself!
It is also quite hard, and you will find that getting pins into it is difficult.
Cork is no good. as said, it is too soft, and will crumble quite rapidly once you start poking pins into it.
If you can find a big enough sheet of fibreboard (like a notice board), that would be ok, if you can keep it flat.
I've not tried plasterboard.
Plywood - some is quite soft, some is hard as nails. BUT it is also quite floppy unless you get a really thick sheet of 7 ply or more, and then it is getting heavy!
Hardboard (a form of compressed cardboard, with a shiny side and a pimply side) - forget it.

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08 Nov 2015 17:17 - 08 Nov 2015 17:20 #15 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Never had a problem with the plasterboard, and I never screw it down, its own weight keeps it as straight as the bench it is being used on, and as Tony says it is cheep and can be replaced, easy to pin to and to cut on, I have cutting mats but still find myself cutting on the board
Cannot be beaten in my opinion and I can buy it here in 3 .3 m x 1.240m sheets cut it in half and it covers a lot of bench
Just my two penny worth :)
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