My Warbirds Spitfire Electric Conversion.

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10 Feb 2014 10:52 #1 by Tony F
Hi all , in the hunt for the elusive Mojo that has gone AWOL I thought I'd try to revive my dusty unflown Spitfire.... [badass]

Please excuse some of these pictures...they were taken before I had a nice camera... :sick:

OK a little history for you all....I purchased a War birds Replica Spitfire with the intention of an Electric Conversion...these are the build pictures I found on my photobucket album.. =

Early work on the fuselage....my work space is tiny (flat in London and no garage).
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The only picture I could find of the wings....Doesn't really show much except I've cut out the U/C holes and they are fitted...also curved and sanded wingtip edges.
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A little video of the U/C in operation.
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Early offering up of the nose section.
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Won't make a post too long...will add more in a bit... ;)

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10 Feb 2014 10:57 #2 by Ex-Member
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Nice looking spit so far. :)

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10 Feb 2014 10:58 #3 by Tony F
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OK second instalment.

Little offering up of the fuselage to the wing section.
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The engine fitted....this is a major problem because I don't think it's powerful enough and needs to be changed...???
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My butcher job on a battery hatch.
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Wing fairings going on.
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Tail feathers on... B)
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More to follow.

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10 Feb 2014 11:04 #4 by Tony F
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Thanks Tony ;)

OK further along we go...

Not a great picture but it's starting to look like a Spitfire.
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Nose section...testing spinners.
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Misunderstood someones advice and put dope at full strength over wings and body...oops :woohoo:
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Inside isn't too detailed but a cockpit will go in of sorts.
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Undercoat on.
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Stay Tuned.

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10 Feb 2014 11:08 #5 by Tony F
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Smoothing the nose section...making it look more "right"
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Really wasn't happy at this stage because the nose looked horrible but I got it nearly right further on.
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Spraying the underside duck egg....not a good idea in a little flat.... :sick:
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OK my first attempt...HORRENDOUS !!!!!
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Final few pictures next.

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10 Feb 2014 11:12 #6 by Tony F
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OK are you ready to see where I finished up ? Now bare in mind she's never flown and still in the state you see next... :blink:

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Not great but not bad for my first ever build.

Sorry I have lost many of the in between build photo's and these are all I have left. She need's butchering again now to get the engine out and replace it , I'm not looking forward to that job :unsure:

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10 Feb 2014 11:21 #7 by Eric
Have you flown electrics before?
Probably teaching granny, but -
First off, you need a wattmeter, so you can see what is happening.
Weigh the model, with the battery installed!
For a warbird you need to aim for a minimum of 100 watts per lb weight. 150 would be better.
Install a speed controller that will take 25% more than the maximum current drawn, or the smoke will get out.
When you are fiddling around and/or setting everything up - TAKE THE PROP OFF! That way, if you get an inadvertent full-power command, you won't lose any fingers, or worse. Electric motors do not stop!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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10 Feb 2014 11:26 #8 by Tony F
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Cheers Eric....yes I have a wattmeter but I made the mistake of putting in the motor before testing the ruddy thing....DOH !!!

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This is the wattage for my Seagull PC-6 Pilatus Porter....Haven't found a prop for the Spitty yet so cannot test it....but I do have a 4260 motor with an 80a ESC that I could chuck in :)

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10 Feb 2014 12:19 #9 by Phil Wood
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Can you remember the motor spec's Tony?
One thing that springs to mind is that heavy coat of dope, undercoat & top coat ..... you may be a bit over the expected weight, but nothing that a load of power won't sort out.
Am I correct in thinking they are foam veneered wings? .... you'll probably be lucky, but doping veneered wings can sometimes cause problems if the dope soaks through the veneer. It sometimes causes the veneer to come unstuck from the foam. .... Drop a bit of dope onto some scrap foam & watch it dissolve.
Leave the motor & battery until last & get an "all up weight" first ..... the rest is easy to work out.

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10 Feb 2014 12:25 #10 by Phil Wood
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Tony F wrote: Sorry I have lost many of the in between build photo's and these are all I have left. She need's butchering again now to get the engine out and replace it , I'm not looking forward to that job :unsure:
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You'll need some system of being able to gain easy access to the motor, you may want to alter side or down thrust after its maiden .... you may even decide to change it at some point.
Don't forget to allow for airflow to cool the motor as well. Obviously you don't want to go too far from scale, but you don't want overheated motors on every flight. ;)

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10 Feb 2014 13:06 #11 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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ahhhhh I love the spitfire, lovely jubbely Tony :)

I wish I was a glow worm, a glow worm's never glum.
Cos how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?!

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10 Feb 2014 15:31 #12 by Garry Pollard
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Nice job Tony F. As has been said before, let us know the weight complete with lipo and we will have a good idea of what motor to fit. An underpowered Spit is a recipe for disaster , ask me how I know :woohoo: :woohoo:

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10 Feb 2014 17:39 #13 by Eric
Only nine watts for your Seagull Pilatus - I don't believe that. That is indoor electric level. My 40" Decathlon draws nearly 400 watts, if I recall correctly, to swing a 10 x 6. (Mind you, it IS a bit over-powered!)
You need to measure the total drain on the battery, with the prop on, and the motor going flat out, to get a true reading.
Plug your lipo to the wattmeter, the wattmeter to the speedo, and the speedo to the motor and radio.

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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10 Feb 2014 18:38 #14 by Tony F
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Lol oops well spotted Eric , that's the wrong picture !!! it pulled 800 watts on a 3 bladed prop :)

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10 Feb 2014 22:00 #15 by Eric
That's more believable!! So you should have a 1200 watt speedo, or bigger, for comfort. :P

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!

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