Secret burials, caves and other storage places.

I don't know if this really fits into the build category because it's a non flying model but - there will certainly be a lot of building involved. Our club President and I got invited to have a look at a collection of models and assorted radio's, motor's, and general bits and pieces that were stored under a house. As is often the case with this sort of thing there were some real treasures - like a 1/3rd scale Cessna Skylane, ditto Mk 9 Spitfire, ditto Ryan PT 19 and to go on is to painful because - as is also common in these cases - everything had badly deteriorated, the owner thinks they are worth much more than a knowledgeable buyer would pay - and so they will sit there while he tries to get his price - no one will pay it - the models etc will deteriorate even more and eventually they will all end up in the bloody dump!!

However - I did make one rescue - but - other than the fact it is approximately 1/8th scale - is a static display model and is a Fokker DR 1 Triplane I don't know much about it. It may be one of those buy a bit a week type things and a quick look around the internet after I came home suggests it might be of UK origin. Photos attached - if any one can identify it AND if any one knows where I can get some building instructions I would be most grateful.

it could be 2 models, the deagastini buy an edition every week, costs about 500quid, or more likley, in your part of the world, the hasegawa museum scale kit, heres a build of one,

www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/t...ker-dr1-build/page-2

have a look, compare to yours, and see what you think

A very good thread Grumps. Look forward to further instalments. It sure fits into a build category

Garry

hi grump no plans i think its the deagastini book one,

and yes alan we do get that magazine down here.

Thanks to every one who has provided suggestions, tips, clues and all the rest. Everything is helpful at this stage. I'm still not sure what it is I've actually got but I think it's either the Hasegawa kit or a week by week build it from a English Publisher called Hatchette. I don't know if they are also De Agostini or if they are connected with them or what. I haven't had any information about a De Agostini DR 1 in Australia and if it is the Hatchette one then it wasn't bought here!!

Some of the parts point to the Hasegawa Kit, some might be from the Hatchette - I haven't found any De Agostini info to compare. Right now - which ever it is - I have a number of lost parts to fabricate, the thing will need to be almost completely dis-assembled and rebuilt. In particular my thanks to Alan - his link to the Hasagawa DR1 build has been very helpful and I've found this link which is to the Hatchette week by week build : -

www.buildafokkertriplane.co.uk/

I'm going to start a page on my blog as well and as it is read in several countries it might bring in some more information. Right now what I need more than anything is info - and of course - any build notes or a manual if it is the Hasegawa kit.

I'm now pretty sure my DR1 is NOT the Hasegawa Kit. I've done a bit more research and there are two things that I think disqualify it as being from Hasegawa. In the link Alan gave me the Hasegawa kit is described as having plastic wingtip ribs and a Plastic Propellor. My kit has a rather nice LAMINATED WOODEN prop and the wingtips are all wood. The site describing the Hatchette Kit seems to be closer to what I have but I'm not absolutely sure yet.

The other thing is, I can't find ANY reference to De Agostina putting out a DR1 kit - could it be the one by Hatchette that has been confused??? . Any way - a few more photo's - I've started to dis-assemble everything very carefully and try to sort out what parts I do have, where they go and how much I am going to have to clean them up before I put it all back together. One thing I can thoroughly NOT recommend is trying to glue a kit like this - where there are metal on metal as well as metal to wood and wood to wood with thick gooey lumps of bloody 5 minute epoxy!!! :sick: :sick: :sick:


First I tried to roughly identify what went where and with what else.


Got it all sorted into piles - think I have most of it worked out from comparison to photos






Can almost work out how it might go together

I cannot help with the origin of the kit but on the Hatchette one the wing spar construction is all wrong, which seems a pity when they went to all the trouble to create an almost perfect scale construction fuselage.
I can understand why they did it like that using laser cut ply ribs but the original actually had two individual two box spars joined by a ply plate top and bottom to form a single box.
This is a contemporary (1918) drawing.
The ribs were fixed to the front and rear face of the box and basically only the capping strips went over/under the spar.

I certainly looks like a fascinating task to put it all together. :woohoo:

Mat be my bad, over here, deagostini seemed to do all the magazine weekly models, but i could be wrong, might indeed have been hatchett

I've been continuing to dis assemble this model and I think I've now got a better idea of what needs to be done - in effect - start over, replace parts, mend broken parts and rebuild the thing properly.



Metal wingtip skid - the other one is missing so I will have to make a mold and make another. The bottom wing is the only one that isn't broken into pieces!


The outer end of the bottom wing


Centre of the top wing - Broken here


Top wing - Outer end - ailerons should fit here. Note the wing is upside down in this photo.


Centre of the two broken pieces of the top wing


The centre wing - the wing in this photo is also upside down. the strut is fixed in place. Should make it interesting to fix!


The three bits of the centre wing panel


This is how far I had to strip the fuselage back

Nothing has been done properly in this bloody build! :whistle:


As I said!


Nothing lines up or is fixed square!

looking good, shame it will be a dust catcher, and not fly, but it will look superb, i saw one at an exhibition, it was half covered, and half open, with all the internal workings present, i hope it went in a museum, it deserved it!! i am going to the states on holiday in november, i am pondering having a balsa USA 1/3rd scale kit delivered to our hotel, even if i declare it at customs, it will be a LOT cheaper than buying it here,

Will be interested to see the build thread on that one if you get it Alan. I intend to build my DR1 the same way that you mention - half covered - half open - but I'm going to make a glass cabinet for it - couldn't handle all that dust! :lol:

NO Gasser - I WON'T put an electrickery motor in it - it's to heavy anyway!! Even for a Nitro Engine

WEEELLLL, to be honest, a low revving lekky motor would be good, just to see the prop turn, with that engine going with it, an workable exeption, dya think?

alan cantwell wrote: WEEELLLL, to be honest, a low revving lekky motor would be good, just to see the prop turn, with that engine going with it, an workable exeption, dya think?

SHHHHHHHHHHH ! I had the same thought but PLEASE don't tell the Gasser - I couldn't stand his gloating. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :evil: :evil: :evil: [badass]

Grumpy42 wrote:

alan cantwell wrote: WEEELLLL, to be honest, a low revving lekky motor would be good, just to see the prop turn, with that engine going with it, an workable exeption, dya think?

SHHHHHHHHHHH ! I had the same thought but PLEASE don't tell the Gasser - I couldn't stand his gloating. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :evil: :evil: :evil: [badass]

Whats this I see,??????? I will put this one in the "Grumps 42" file for later use. ( Rubs hands in glee, and gloats uncontollably) :woohoo: :evil: :evil: [badass]

Gasser