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23 Mar 2014 22:18 #1 by Fly-Navy
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Can anyone who has been involved in modelling since the 80s tell me if C A P kits ever did the Bucker please.
I was given this model many moons ago to refurb, and it has languished in the loft since then. With the demise of my DL I thought I would get the fuz down and do that, that is almost done now just need to put rx ,s/w and battery in. This model has an aluminium cowl. Cannot tell you the wingspan as they are still in the loft, the reason I am thinking of C A P is it has the same top wing retention method that the C A P Gladiator has.
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23 Mar 2014 23:01 #2 by alan cantwell
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Complete a pac certainly did the meinster, it was i think, 60inch span, and was true old school building, Traplet bought the rights to publish the plans, but Anglia model centre own the kitting rights, sadly, they only do 3 models now, and traplet dont list the bucker, more aerobatic than a pitts, at half the speed, i have 2, a svenson one, 1/4scale, at 65inch, and a John Greenfield version, at 1/3rd scale i had a pica one, 60inch, desigbed by Dave Pratt, it flew well, and heres a story,
I was flying mine in a scale event, it was always skittish, bouncing in and out of aerobatic moves with no great accuracy, it was like flying a floaty ball, this day, one guy was flying a 1/3rd scale, it looked so solid, it grooved round the manouveres, we got talking, and he mentioned his was the same, so, he built a weight box, on the CG, and kept adding ballsat until it flew the way it did, i did the same with mine, and it became a joy to fly, I sold mine when i got the 65inch one, that was 15 years ago, and i still have not flown the bloomin thing!!

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24 Mar 2014 09:46 #3 by RobC
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I have a Jungmeister built from the Stothers 49" plan for a 60 engine, and I always found that one had too high a wing loading with a tendency to flick out too easily. Maybe one day I'll strip off the Glosstex and put it on a diet, see if I can get it to fly as Alan describes a Jungie should.
I've also got a 60" Pica kit in the stockpile. Yes, I do have a soft spot for the design.

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25 Mar 2014 13:36 - 25 Mar 2014 16:23 #4 by Fly-Navy
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Found it [badass] [badass]
Got wings from loft to start em, measured them came out at 58". After a bit of searching I found a blog on RC Groups of a guy who built a 58" one, turns out it is a "Model World Plans" Meister, the plan in his blog even shows the same registration as is on my wings so looks like I'm in the ball park. He got them from Traplet but I couldn't see any for that size after a quick search.
Wings have aged darker yellow than fuzz so will repaint them.
Thank you for your input gents. ;) ;)
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25 Mar 2014 13:46 #5 by old fart
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And what is the registration?

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25 Mar 2014 14:50 #6 by Fly-Navy
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G-AXIH, why do you know it Owen ??

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25 Mar 2014 15:24 #7 by old fart
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No, but I did come across this; gb.trapletshop.com/bucker-jungmeister :)

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25 Mar 2014 16:12 #8 by RobC
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That'll be the plan from the old CAP kit

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25 Mar 2014 20:24 #9 by Fly-Navy
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Guy who did the build on RCGroups is vonJaerschky, all 40 plus pages of it :woohoo: :woohoo:
Very helpful he has been and saying ask away for any info I might need. Aren't modellers a wonderful helpful bunch :) :)

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31 Mar 2014 18:22 - 31 Mar 2014 18:25 #10 by Fly-Navy
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From "Ashes to Phoenix"





Just one or two jobs to do, ie make some struts get Nigel at Flightline Graphics to do couple tail motifs etc and hopefully she will FLYYYYYYYYYYYY :woohoo:

Must say free hand line painting and lettering is a bugger with hands mangled with arthritis, tis ok from a distance though.

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31 Mar 2014 19:04 #11 by Ex-Member
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now that looks special sir.
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Great job F/N, lets have some pics when it flies please

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04 Apr 2014 19:04 - 04 Apr 2014 19:42 #13 by Fly-Navy
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Assembled wings on model today to measure for struts, you would not believe how the top wing lay to the bottom wing. took a measurement from bottom wing TE at aileron cutout to rear fuse centre and wing lined up lovely, within 3mm. if you looked plan view the top wing was about 15 deg out of sync with lower. Took the wing off and checked the soldered guides on cabane struts and both hole on the port side were out to their opposite by just under an 1" , "Kin hell" could be why he didn't like flying it.
Re-jigged it and marked new positions and put new captive nuts in, re-fitted wing and leading edge is within couple mill to lower wing for full width, that'll do me.
Needed to measure for interplane struts to be made, my inside calipers wouldn't open wide enough, don't like flexing a tape measure then remembered my mate Mr Redshaw's tip, Used two coffee stirrers and a couple of small clamps to get exact gap at each position, all four struts were within 1/8" of 10.5", well said I that's as near as i want :woohoo: :woohoo:
cut some brass bushes to go into all the fixings and that's me for the day. Nigel at Flightline Graphics has got back to me saying he can do masks no prob when I need em, will have to wait a couple of weeks but I can hopefully get the flight testing out the way, two nice 15 x 8 props arrived this morning also :)
John

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25 May 2014 13:37 - 25 May 2014 15:47 #14 by Happyloop
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All the best with your Bucker project.
Bucker's are designed to fly aerobatic's....
I hope you enjoy this video from Paolo Severin 50% scale Jungmeister :-)





Happy landings,
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25 May 2014 15:05 #15 by Harry Cobeen
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Slightly Off topic, but sort of relevant. This was a Bucker Jungmann taxiing out at Valencia airport amongst the big stuff, a few years ago.


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