Cleaning Engines

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29 Aug 2012 02:46 #1 by Bulleidboy
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I have a Webra Speed 61, bought many, many years ago, and used by a friend for a few weeks, when I got it back, it went into its box and there it remained. Now seized solid, with burnt on fuel etc., - any ideas on how to clean it? Is there a product on the market - I did read somewhere about putting engines in the dishwasher! Many thanks in advance.

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29 Aug 2012 03:08 #2 by The Beard
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There are many opinions on cleaning engines ive used paraffin ,truck wash all sorts.to unseize an engine again there are variuos theories.Ive succeeded by heating it up with a hot gun.Some people put them in an oven.Some say the best way is to unseize it and fly it.The getting hot and soaked in fuel is considered a good way to get an engine cleaned up.

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29 Aug 2012 03:15 #3 by Eric
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Old castor oil sets like varnish.
Take the plug out, the exhaust and carb off, and put all the bits in a pan of water with some washing up liquid, and gently boil it for a couple of hours. That will break down a lot of the guck. Then while it is hot, squirt some 3 in 1 or wd40 penetrating oil in, and try to turn it over slowly, by hand, until it frees off. Patience is the word. Don't force anything that is stuck. If the piston won't turn over, but will rock slightly, keep rocking it, and working oil in, until it goes a bit further, etc.

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!

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29 Aug 2012 10:18 - 29 Aug 2012 10:21 #4 by Grumpy42
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Ummm - a word of warning about some detergents and water - they DO attack castings and aluminium bits like pistons and conrods. My prefered method is to disassemble the motor as much as possible and gently heat in an oven - I only heat to 150 F - for about an hour - this will soften most of the gunk - then - after the motor has cooled down to a temperature you can comfortably hold - but not totally cooled off - plunge the motor into glow fuel and leave it soak for a whole day. You will find the thing will then come apart with little difficulty - Clean all parts thoroughly and then re- assemble with after run oil. I've been using and collecting IC motors for more than 50 years and this method has always worked well for me. Even on some strange old motors with questionable metallurgy in the castings. Oh - and as Eric has said - PATIENCE is a major part of the tool box when working on engines.
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29 Aug 2012 14:07 #5 by The Beard
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So no sledge hammer then

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29 Aug 2012 16:17 #6 by Eric
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You can use a sledge hammer on an MDS, it won't notice! (and it still won't run afterwards!)

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29 Aug 2012 16:32 #7 by Phil Wood
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Eric wrote: You can use a sledge hammer on an MDS, it won't notice! (and it still won't run afterwards!)

They don't run when new do they? :lol:
Just soak the bugger in fuel & free it off ..... it'll be fine after that.;)

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29 Aug 2012 16:45 #8 by Eric
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Just a thought - check the ball bearings, if it had any, because they may be stuck too, or pitted. If you used nitro fuel, rather than just straight methanol/castor, the nitro can form an acid, and eat little flats or pits on the spherical bits.

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30 Aug 2012 08:36 #9 by The Beard
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Ive a couple of vintage engines that I may try the oven test on.

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30 Aug 2012 08:37 #10 by The Beard
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Should the fuel be 5% or !0% isuppose its 1 for 2 strokes and toyther for 4 strokes :woohoo:

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30 Aug 2012 09:13 - 30 Aug 2012 09:14 #11 by Grumpy42
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The Beard wrote: Should the fuel be 5% or !0% isuppose its 1 for 2 strokes and toyther for 4 strokes :woohoo:


I gather you are referring to the nitro content Stephen, I use mostly 5% unless I'm looking to use a Cox or some high performance motor. - In a lot of my 4 strokes I use no nitro content at all and you don't need nitro content to soak the motor in!! If you are asking about oil content those figures are way off - unless of course you want to blow the bloody thing up! :evil:
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30 Aug 2012 12:44 #12 by Klipkopwildlife
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In the old days we used 33% oil. I believe modern synthetics allow you to come down from that, but I wouldn't go too far.
I use 20:1 (5%) in my Petrol engines, but they're a special case because of the natural lubricity of Petrol.

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30 Aug 2012 14:04 - 30 Aug 2012 14:04 #13 by The Beard
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You two need to chill I was joking,my engines are lovely and clean mostly and covered in fuel so they don go rusty.
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31 Aug 2012 02:09 #14 by Bulleidboy
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Many thanks for all the replies - looks as though I have to slip it in with the Sunday roast!
We have a fan operated oven - will this make any difference? lol.

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31 Aug 2012 02:13 #15 by Eric
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That depends on who she's a fan of! :P

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