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19 Jan 2018 13:03 - 19 Jan 2018 13:05 #1 by Klipkopwildlife
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While looking around for something to do that didn't mean too much moving around I remembered the troubles I was having with my battery powered drills. I found that after 6 months or so the battery life is not too good and they self discharge overnight! A 12volt drill battery is rated at about 1200mAh, since I had a number of old Lipo batteries I will never use again, (they sag under load) this is what I've done.
First discharge the battery completely! Not hard to do!


This is the type of battery, Ryobi (Australian) is common here as budget tooling.
Remove 4 screws.


and this is what you find.
Using a disc cutter in a pencil grinder cut the negative strap.


Do it now, you may never get another chance
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19 Jan 2018 15:19 #2 by THE BLACKBIRD
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AND ????


What exactly is a pencil grinder ?

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19 Jan 2018 15:41 #3 by Robin Colbourne
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THE BLACKBIRD wrote: AND ????


What exactly is a pencil grinder ?


Probably a Dremel or similar?

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19 Jan 2018 16:08 #4 by old fart
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It's a grinder for pencils. ;) ;)

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19 Jan 2018 16:53 #5 by Klipkopwildlife
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I hesitated to say Dremel!
Now unsolder the positive and tin the negative contact because we need this widget that holds the sliding contacts.

One at a time solder the new battery wires onto the widget, I've left it sitting on top of the old battery pack so it's easier to work with.


Once done we can discard the old battery.

Do it now, you may never get another chance
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19 Jan 2018 17:01 #6 by Klipkopwildlife
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The sliding connector block fits in the 'tower' of the case.


And we need a block of non conductive (wood) material to stop the contact block from sliding down. Note the 4mm hole for the balance plug wires.


I put a dab of glue to stop the block from moving during assembly.


Job done, I still have one battery with the original batteries but I'm going to modify one of the charger sockets to fit my Lipo charger.

Do it now, you may never get another chance
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19 Jan 2018 17:04 #7 by Klipkopwildlife
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I claim no original thought for this, it came from a site called 'Instructables', the MO is mine.
A caveat, don't run this new battery flat, there is no 'auto disconnect' that you get with the new Lipo powered portables.

Do it now, you may never get another chance
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19 Jan 2018 20:31 #8 by THE BLACKBIRD
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And I threw two drivers away last September because all five batteries died :whistle:

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20 Jan 2018 07:26 #9 by Klipkopwildlife
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Guilty as well! Replacement OEM batteries here cost over 50quid each. Apparently the voltage of the new battery is not that critical since the only difference between a 12volt and an 18volt drill is the battery, there may be a slight drop in maximum revs but these things don't rev that high anyway.

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20 Jan 2018 10:06 #10 by Eric
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I vaguely remember doing something similar with an ancient old B+D 9v drill, with the nicads built into the handle. When the battery pack 'died', i discarded it, used an external 'car-racing' pack (because it wouldn't fit inside), and fed it via the 3.5mm charging jack.
It worked great for a while, but when I was drilling a larger diameter hole for something - long forgotten what - the socket melted! Made some lovely sparks before I cut the wire!
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23 Jan 2018 03:26 #11 by one tenor
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It is possible to recover batteries by flashing a high power/voltage across the terminals ( A welder for instance ) Just a glancing contact only .DO NOT HOLD CONTACT. Or if handy at soldering breaking up an external pack and rebuild into the correct configuration for your tool I've done both a few times . Mine and other peoples. The voltage breaks down internal dendrites that short internally

Anything will fly given enough power

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23 Jan 2018 09:45 - 23 Jan 2018 09:45 #12 by Ex-Member
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I would not advise doing that as the battery could well explode.



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23 Jan 2018 10:03 #13 by Flytilbroke
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I agree with 1T, replaced many packs by home made packs. Also "kick started" many cells over the years. Not Lipo cells tho' they are too chancy.

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23 Jan 2018 14:54 #14 by one tenor
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Agreed about Lipos but re the other comment about exploding cells. Never heard of one doing so. The contact is not held on at all. Merely a glancing swipe across the terminals.There is no time to build any heat or gases 5o explode.. I've done hundreds of them and had no trouble. The quick flash breaks down the dentricles that form inside and cause internal shorting thus killing the cell. Once done the battery is fit for normal charging.and use. Oh yes does not work on non rechargeable 1.5 v cells.

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23 Jan 2018 18:08 #15 by Eric
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I accidentally blew up a nicad 500mah button cell. I'd left it (a four cell pack) on the usual 50mah overnight trickle, having done it many times before, then at Oh-God-o-clock, tremendous BANG! from the model room.
When I went to investigate, black powder all over everything! One button in the middle of the pack had decided it had had enough! It took weeks to get the black stain off everything! [badass]

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