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04 Jul 2016 13:35 - 04 Jul 2016 13:37 #1 by martynk
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Its a while since I started a thread here.. However, thanks to Andy Sephton and Danny Fenton who jointly have reignited my interest in indoor scale models. The last indoor scale comp I flew in was at Rochdale in 1974(ish), so its been a while.

I bought this Peck kit a couple of years ago as a holiday build but it has been collecting dust. However, I was away for a week - glamping near Aberystwyth so with my portable workshop I started to do a build. I may even get this one finished.




Wood quality wasn't bad, interestingly, one piece of strip was grade colour coded - unfortunately, the rest weren't. If I was scratch building, I would have replaced the 1/16 sheet ribs with 1/32 but that wasn't an option in the circumstances.



Fuselage sides built on the plan and the second side then built on top of the first with a layer of cling film protecting both sides from over applied adhesive. I use No More Nails PVA by the way, slightly thinner than Resin W which is my default big model glue.






Fin (and tailplane) assembled from 1/16 sq sticks. Gussets added as per plan




Assembling the fuselage sides with limited tools and jigs is always a bit tricky. More so with this model as the cross section is a Rhombic. The upper and lower widths are shown on the plan and spacers cut (including a couple of temporary ones), glued and allowed to dry.




Upper Stringers added. fuselage appears to be nice and straight.




I then started work on the wings. Up until now I had blindly assumed that a laser cut kit should have parts that fit properly. What I found was that the 1/16 sheet parts were about 5% oversize... :dry:

Which had ramifications because the U/C mounting piece in the fus was also too big which meant that my carefully mounted undercarriage was also too wide..




Wings assembled, the lower wings are identical to the upper except no centre section




The now inbuilt kink in the fuselage sides was removed by carving the inside edge of the balsa cowl cheeks - which worked remarkably well




And standing on two legs... with all the parts precariously balanced




Apart from fitting the nose block and a bit of sanding, this is where I am up to.

This is the scheme that I will probably adopt..




More to come - hopefully soon..
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04 Jul 2016 14:11 #2 by Septic
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Great to see you doing a thread on here Martyn. Even better to see you doing the Andreason. Just found some pics showing my Dad's Andreason flying at Breighton. It crashed on finals, due to pilot error. Still don't know why dad let the pilot fly it! Anyway i am sure yours wont suffer the same fate!






Dad made two sets of parts, G-BEBS and G-BEBT he built BEBS for himself and sold the other set of wings and fus, sort of an artf ;)

Look forward to seeing how you get on :)

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04 Jul 2016 14:28 #3 by martynk
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Thanks Danny.

I was rather taken by the colour scheme of BEBT, I was saving that for a larger version of the model. (The 1/4 scale I mentioned). There are only a few shots of BEBT I can find - this one shows a blank canvas underneath - if you look closely enough

The Bubble Canopy may be a challenge though

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04 Jul 2016 14:48 #4 by Septic
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It gets quite big at 1/4 scale, all of 55" !!!


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04 Jul 2016 14:51 #5 by martynk
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Looks quite agile. And at 1/4 scale - an OS 120FS - perfect... :)
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04 Jul 2016 14:58 #6 by Septic
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Does this help with docs?


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04 Jul 2016 15:06 #7 by martynk
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How do I get all those rivets onto a 12" span model :)
The tilting canopy will be a challenge as well

Thanks - that is useful - need to import that into CAD I think

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04 Jul 2016 15:18 #8 by Septic
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When I am up at dad's next I will see if the full scale drawings are still around ;)

Cheers
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04 Jul 2016 15:29 #9 by martynk
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It would be nice to get them as a reference. I wouldn't have thought the plans would have been full size although TBH I have never seen a home build plans before.

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04 Jul 2016 22:00 #10 by Quorneng
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I built one of those a very long time ago - so long ago the original photo (1966!) is in black and white. :woohoo:

I think the plans were free in the Aeromodeller.
Converted to electric 'round the pole' control line with the nose shortened to allow for the relatively heavy 3V brushed motor.
Today's picture - 50 years later!
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05 Jul 2016 09:23 #11 by martynk
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Good grief. That is impressive. Very nice looking little aeroplane. It looks about the same size as well judging by the rule in the foreground. I cant get a model to live for a year never mind 50 years.

I spent yesterday evening sanding the model down and un-squaring the LE and TE. I am going to revisit the cowl before I cover it, I notice on the photos that the rear of the cowl isn't flush with the fus so I am going to redo and build them out slightly and also try and get the shape correct. I also need to devise a method of cutting the inlet hole in the front. The plan indicates to simply paint it black but the Rolling Stones objected.

I also found some white ink jet transfer material so will have a crack at doing the lettering and also the markings for the PT-19 as well and also the kit scale Swordfish I started 12 months ago which is in a similar state..

Hey ho..

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05 Jul 2016 09:31 #12 by martynk
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Just spotted that G-YPSY has a different air inlet at the front of the cowl which will make things a little easier

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05 Jul 2016 09:43 #13 by Ex-Member
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Quorneng wrote: I built one of those a very long time ago....
.......I think the plans were free in the Aeromodeller........


They certainly were Q, November 1969 issue in fact! It was the introduction to Peanut Scale (13" span rubber powered scale models) in the UK, and look what it started! It's now a BMFA National Competition with two rather nice silver trophies

Here's the original cover and article:





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05 Jul 2016 09:49 #14 by martynk
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Yes - that's the model I am building :)
The cowl is slightly different on my plan - possibly an artefact of the kitting process

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05 Jul 2016 18:28 - 05 Jul 2016 18:29 #15 by Quorneng
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Ah! 1969
So it looks like I got my dates wrong. My BA4b is only 57 years old! :P
It is was built to the Peanut Scale plans.
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