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Thoughts on a scale Sopwith Camel

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23 Dec 2020 14:19 #31 by crash happy
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I don't know if it's any help or not, but I was looking around on-line to see how others had overcome the CG problem on the electric version. One guy had cut the cowl & false rotary & made them into a battery hatch. The battery then mounted through the front below the motor. He said there was 15mm clearance to the motor. Quite a few others had also increased the rudder area by 50%, apparently improving the flight characteristics dramatically. Just a thought. :)
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24 Dec 2020 07:53 #32 by Klipkopwildlife
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STF said "Would adding some incidence or airfoil to the tail to add lift help relieve the rearward CoG?"
The problem there would be serious changes in angle of attack with speed, I know the Flee Bighters do it but those aircraft tend to fly at a constant speed. The last thing you want is for the nose to head south when you open the throttle!
Crash, there are going to be all manner of problems with this aircraft, I think increasing the rudder area by 50% would probably look just as naff as the long cowl. Mixes might be the order of the day to give lots of rudder with aileron.
Anyone know of a decent linear servo for the ailerons? A quick look shows some 1.7gm ones, but I hardly think they'll have sufficient urge. And the ones we use for Solar panel actuation are a bit large!

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27 Dec 2020 10:05 #33 by Klipkopwildlife
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My kit has now been in and out of the Utrecht parcel centre 4 times, I hope it gets to the UK before the 1st January or I may have to pay Customs on it as well!

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27 Dec 2020 16:52 #34 by Eric
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Linear servos - the only ones I've seen recently are intended for sail winches on r/c yachts and they might be a bit slow for ailerons!
Futaba made some nice ones a long long time ago, in the days of nicads, really tightly packed discrete components, five wire servos, and that lovely soft pink plastic case that bent under load! (I think I've still got one lurking in the junk-box!)

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28 Dec 2020 07:02 #35 by Klipkopwildlife
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5 wire servos, expand please?

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28 Dec 2020 08:46 #36 by Eric
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Nicad battery - four cells - centre-tapped - fed the rx
2.4 volts either way on the servo.
Otherwise the servo worked the same way as the modern ones, motor turns the gears that moves the output and the positioning pot, just a bit slower than modern gear - about half a second end to end!
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I think it was voltage-matching, rather than digital matching, for zero, though. I never really bothered finding out!
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If I've still got one of those ancient servos, do you want it to play with?

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28 Dec 2020 09:36 #37 by paul d
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Turnegy make linear servos..think savox and spektrum do as Well??

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28 Dec 2020 10:09 #38 by Klipkopwildlife
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Yes please Eric, but it'll have to wait a while. You'll have to wait a bit for the reason why.

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28 Dec 2020 10:10 #39 by Quorneng
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As you might have guessed I never throw anything away.
A Futaba 5 wire linear servo.

Slim line or light it most definitely is not!
I have three.
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28 Dec 2020 11:05 #40 by THE BLACKBIRD
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I pity the pore bugger who has to clear your house after your demise, trying to get the correct value of your treasures :ohmy:
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28 Dec 2020 13:36 #41 by Eric
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Tony - I'll have a rummage in the junk-box in the attic, when I get a round tuit, see if it's still there.

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19 Mar 2021 16:51 #42 by Klipkopwildlife
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This is on hold at the moment, I have the kit, it's in the workshop gathering dust at the moment, and in any event Mary has said "Tiger Moth first!!!"

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