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02 Feb 2021 17:19 #1 by Klipkopwildlife
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While being without Internet or comms of any kind I discovered that I had time on my hands, so started this.

Opening the box you find this

Even the inside has detail, the instructions call for Desert sand colour, why bother no one will ever see it, but I'll know!

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02 Feb 2021 18:09 #2 by paul d
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nice kit! think I would have painted the interior "linen" and picked out the frame in "sand" to replicate the covering and frame work...good start though Klippy.

balsa is best.
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02 Feb 2021 20:48 #3 by Eric
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Watch the c of g!!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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03 Feb 2021 07:19 #4 by Klipkopwildlife
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paul d wrote: nice kit! think I would have painted the interior "linen" and picked out the frame in "sand" to replicate the covering and frame work...good start though Klippy.

Just did what the instructions told me, and, I only had the paints the seller sent me. But good point Paul, it's 65 years since I did anything like this and I enjoyed every moment.

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03 Feb 2021 19:34 #5 by Quorneng
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Its when you start highlighting the features on the pilot's face you know you are hooked.
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04 Feb 2021 09:23 #6 by Klipkopwildlife
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The detail on the outside will be very useful when I come to do the RC version.

The engine detail is built up, but I painted it while still in the frame

All the surfaces had the correct gap, it would have been so easy to do it in one piece, this way at least I can see where to put my hinges.

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04 Feb 2021 09:40 #7 by Klipkopwildlife
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I've decided to do the Captain Roy Brown version, the Squadron hack version doesn't do it for me.

I wondered what the instructions meant by this, it turns out it's to make retainers for the rigging wires. Cotton thread actually.
They made it so the engine rotates, and there's a keyway in the propeller to make sure of the correct position on the engine.


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04 Feb 2021 09:56 #8 by paul d
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That's looking great Klippy!

balsa is best.
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04 Feb 2021 10:14 #9 by supertigrefan
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Streching sprue! I haven't seen that since I was a kid. I used a candle to do it for making things like aerials, pitot tubes, ejector seat handles etc, the quicker you stretch it the thinner it becomes.

Stay low, Move fast, Trust no-one....
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04 Feb 2021 12:01 #10 by Quorneng
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Very neat Klippy.
A nerd 'Sopwith' question. Why is there a vertical bracing wire to the centre of the undercarriage as well as the conventional diamond bracing as it appears to serve no structural purpose?
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04 Feb 2021 12:08 - 04 Feb 2021 12:09 #11 by Rich griff
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I "prick out" the pilots eyes with a pin, making a hole for eyes...I have in a box in the loft a gigant glider and the double hienkel bomber tug.

The loss of life involved with the gigant was huge, but they were German, so that's ok, it was years ago anyway...and they were the enemy. Total war eh...
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04 Feb 2021 12:40 #12 by Klipkopwildlife
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Quorneng wrote: Very neat Klippy.
A nerd 'Sopwith' question. Why is there a vertical bracing wire to the centre of the undercarriage as well as the conventional diamond bracing as it appears to serve no structural purpose?

I imagine to stop the undercarriage from descending too far when in flight, that's the only reason I can come up with.

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04 Feb 2021 17:40 #13 by Quorneng
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Klippy
That explanation would make sense except the Camel did not have a cross axle but a centre pivoted one. Each wheel was on its own half 'swing' axle.

Thus with the wheel outside the bungee cord there would be a downward force on the axle pivot point hence the centre vertical brace.
Only Sopwith did fighter axles like this. It did mean the wheel was was positively located against side ways movement which I presume would improved lateral control on the landing run.
It gave the Camel a 'bowed' undercarriage look particularly as the bungees stretched from being soaked in caster oil.

I did say it was a 'nerd' question.;)
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04 Feb 2021 17:46 #14 by Klipkopwildlife
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Great Simon, only questions give us the right answers. The detail of the model only shows the half axles but gives no clue as to why there would be a bracing wire at that point.

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04 Feb 2021 19:53 #15 by Quorneng
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To be honest I did not previously know about the Sopwith undercarriage but I did some research when I built my Pup which had the same system. I duly copied all be it in wood with dressmakers pins as the pivots and elastic cotton as the bungee chord.

All impossibly delicate for grass landing RC plane! :woohoo:
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