A possible very old glider conversion

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05 May 2019 19:40 #16 by Quorneng
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Rather slow progress as I seem to be baby sitting more than usual!
The first aileron servo installed.

It looks a bit "hanging in mid air" but there is not much structure to fix it too. :ohmy:
Note the little printed piece that will allow a slot in the tissue for the servo arm to poke through.
As I will be using the DX6i and dual servos it will have differential ailerons.
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06 May 2019 21:44 - 06 May 2019 21:46 #17 by Quorneng
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To actually hinge the aileron and test the installation works properly the tip has to be covered.

The rest of the wing on the other hand has to be left open to run the servo wire inside. The tip tissue is not yet water shrunk.

I am using JP 'model plane' tissue which works well enough but it is not properly water proof like Model Span so need considerable care.

Model Span can actually be applied damp which speeds up the whole process and being waterproof is subsequently much less 'softened' by the water based Eze Dope. :ohmy:

Still mustn't grumble.
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07 May 2019 07:02 - 07 May 2019 07:41 #18 by paul d
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same stuff I'm currently using, it not to bad, better than the hobby craft stuff I've used.
How do you apply eze dope? I use a old art brush but am thinking about trying a foam brush as I find I'm getting streaks in the first couple of coats, they do disappear in subsequent coats though.
I do like it for it's lack of smell and it's light weight ( I use the recommended 70/30 water dope mix).

balsa is best.
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07 May 2019 09:24 #19 by Quorneng
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I am using a particularly soft brush and I agree that the Eze Dope surface finish on this tissue is not great.
It is rather better on Model Span as its more open structure seems to absorb the dope more consistently.
In my case I am only using a single dope coat as all the tissue will be painted, either water based enamel or "rattle can" spray.

The 'solid' and water proof surface of Depron sheet may never end up as smooth and shiny as dope on tissue but it is rather quicker & simpler to do! ;)

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07 May 2019 18:13 #20 by Quorneng
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Fitted the ESC inside the nose with a 'fingered' heat sink in the air stream.


I guess the battery will go alongside it but its actual position will have to wait until the rest is complete, doped and painted. ;)
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08 May 2019 22:33 #21 by Quorneng
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After much cogitation I have arrived at a the final disposition of the servos and rx in the fuselage.

A battery box under the rudder servo is also included so the battery has the potential to to be moved 3" fore and aft to achieve a suitable CofG before having to use ballast.
The snakes have arrived from HK but as before they had been 'wound up' into a bag so they will need to be suspended with weights until they are straight(ish) again! :(
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09 May 2019 06:48 #22 by paul d
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Coming along nicely, got a colour scheme in mind?
Try putting your snakes in warm water, the should straighten up nicely.

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10 May 2019 02:01 #23 by Quorneng
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As the fuselage structure is already painted the intention is for yellow all over but with the movable control surfaces and the spinner black.
The only unknown is how well the doped tissue will take a yellow spray.

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10 May 2019 11:36 - 10 May 2019 11:38 #24 by Quorneng
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Finally got the elevator snake fitted and connected up.

The snake is retained at each end and at several points in between by small printed clips.

Note the extended servo arm required to match the long elevator horn.
Although the whole set up is suitably light it took ridiculously long to do and is virtually non adjustable! ;)
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10 May 2019 12:28 #25 by paul d
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I too took 3 hours installing my elevator snake yesterday, a very fiddly job in such a narrow fus

balsa is best.

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10 May 2019 13:23 #26 by one tenor
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What about tissue(Lightweight Maybe) over the Depron?

Anything will fly given enough power

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10 May 2019 15:12 #27 by Quorneng
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Depron?
There is no Depron on this. It will be just balsa & tissue with a few printed parts. :)

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11 May 2019 11:27 #28 by one tenor
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Sorry I was responding to the comment I thought made by you that Depron may never be a smooth a finish as film,tissue, etc. Sorry for the mix-up Regards John

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11 May 2019 23:50 #29 by Quorneng
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Still slowly moving on.
The fuselage tissue substantially complete.

The panels left open are to give access to tie the pull/pull wires to the servo arm.
It has been water shrunk. The next step is to paint the fin and rear section of the fuselage prior to installing and connecting up the rudder.
Only then can the fuselage covering and painting be finally completed.
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12 May 2019 08:24 #30 by paul d
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Nice work, I do like the shape of the fuselage.
How are you proposing to join your rudder wires to the servo?

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