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30 Apr 2021 20:26 #1 by MiamiMan
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Hello, I live in Miami, Florida, and even though it's supposed to be a tropical paradise, this part of building this kit Dumas 210 Ford Trimotor) is making me crazy.
I can't for the life of me figure out how Wire A is supposed to fit, not to mention wire B.
It says to cover all parts and then cement the wing onto the fuselage, and THEN drill a hole into the wing for Wire B.
11/16 in from the dihedral break (which I can't see) Am I supposed to drill through the tissue??
At this point I am completely befuddled and could use a helping hand.
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30 Apr 2021 21:03 #2 by Eric
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Answering this could be difficult, because the majority of active readers of this group are in the UK.
Myself, I've never seen any Dumas kit, but reading between the lines, I would hazard a guess that this model is a pretty small free-flight one.
The best I can suggest is that you do a computer search for a full-size Tri, and see if you can see where the wires go, such as -
www.google.com/search?q=ford+tri-motor+i...imgrc=zVkzvwkqRLOyfM
if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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30 Apr 2021 22:12 - 30 Apr 2021 22:12 #3 by Quorneng
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It is indeed small. A peanut scale (13" span) Tri Motor!

The only way we might be able to help is if you could post a decent image of the plans or someone on here buys one!
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01 May 2021 13:13 - 02 May 2021 08:54 #4 by MiamiMan
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Thank you. Here are the instructions. Note that page 3, item 3 is where i get confused as to how to bend wire A.





Pictures inserted.
Last edit: 02 May 2021 08:54 by Klipkopwildlife. Reason: insert pics
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01 May 2021 13:20 #5 by MiamiMan
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Good view of landing gear, but how do I create this structure with wire A and wire B
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01 May 2021 16:39 #6 by MiamiMan
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Which supplier would you recommend that has clearer instructions?

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01 May 2021 16:43 - 01 May 2021 16:47 #7 by Quorneng
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These might help.
I made the A&B parts full size but out of easy to bend copper wire.


You will obviously need two Bs, one for each side.
They are joined like this. I would suggest solder if possible.

Note B and the front strut lie parallel to each other which make assembly a bit easier.
Finished, on one side, the wire should look like this.

I don't know how the undercarriage parts are actually fixed to the air frame.
Peanut scale is a bit small for me.
My only attempt was an Andreason BA4b converted to electric well over 50 years ago.
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01 May 2021 16:46 #8 by MiamiMan
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Quorneng, if you posted pictures, I cannot see them, just "You do not have permissions to access this page"
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01 May 2021 16:48 #9 by Quorneng
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Sorry! now fixed
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01 May 2021 17:50 #10 by MiamiMan
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Yes, i see them now. So even though instruction 3 says to put the wheel on wire A, it goes on wire B in #6?

Thank you for going out of your way to take pics of your work.
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01 May 2021 19:03 - 02 May 2021 08:58 #11 by MiamiMan
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My temporarily placed wire gear A.

MM, you need to remember to press 'insert' otherwise we only get the thumbnails.
Last edit: 02 May 2021 08:58 by Klipkopwildlife. Reason: insert pics
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01 May 2021 21:17 #12 by Eric
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You are missing a step out when you send pic's, so all we see are the thumbnails.
There's a tutorial on here somewhere, but right now I don't have time to look for it, I'm in the middle of cooking the evening meal!
if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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01 May 2021 22:29 #13 by MiamiMan
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01 May 2021 22:29 #14 by MiamiMan
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Thank you. Didn't realize there was an extra step. Enjoy your dinner!
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02 May 2021 12:33 #15 by Quorneng
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MiamiMan
Wow! That looks like an immensely thick (scale?) wing section.
At very small sizes the normal rule is that a thin wing section reduces drag well in excess of the loss in lift. One reason why 'shockies' with their 'flat plate' wings fly so well.
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