Vickers 163 Scale Model Build.

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14 Oct 2011 15:10 #121 by blooper
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ye gods man, enough already. :P

no idea about a v tail mixer as i have no plans to build anything with a v tail.

looks like i best start on 2 hurricanes soon then. ( funds allowing)

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14 Oct 2011 16:41 #122 by Phil Wood
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I won't be able to post this lot until tomorrow Bloop. Our Martin has my car today & it's too far for me to walk to the post office. ;)
I know we've drifted a bit off topic here, but it is related to getting the materials to finish the Vickers. :)
If I were you I'd post a list of what's needed to finish it & let's see what happens. :cheer:

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14 Oct 2011 17:10 #123 by blooper
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well folks.

i need tissue
dope
1/32 balsa
1/16 balsa
y leads
14 swg piano wire
fishing trace
wheels
thin aluminium for the engine pods and round the canopy

thats the main stuff.

motors, esc's and batteries i will be saving for.

then if we are talking about garry and phills hurricanes, then the list will be huge. :cheer:

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14 Oct 2011 18:54 #124 by Grumpy42
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What sort of wheels and what diameter Bloop? I have a collection of vintage wheels and if you don't mind waiting for the postal service (we still use horse and pony down here) I might be able to help.

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14 Oct 2011 21:01 #125 by blooper
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wheels look like this.
i will get a size later

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15 Oct 2011 01:29 #126 by blooper
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the main wheels are 11cm in diameter and 2 wide.
tail wheel is 4cm in diameter and 1 cm wide.

i found some modern foam tyred ones in my bits box, i might be able to make new hubs to make them look more vintage.

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15 Oct 2011 02:37 #127 by blooper
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right
managed a wee bit more.
used the last of my spruce dowel up on the front cabanes.


araldited the control wire to the lower tailplane and dropped it in place.


general view of how far we have got to to date.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooong way to go still though.


will it ever be finished.










YES IT WILL. one day.:P

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15 Oct 2011 17:54 #128 by Grumpy42
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Bloop - I have a set of wheels that are almost exact size - the mains are 10.8cm (4 1/4") x 2 and a tail wheel the exact size you want. Only difference is the tyres are the round vintage type - the photo seems to show more of a flat topped profile. You'd also have to drill out the hubcaps as they have no axle protrudence. If you would like them all I need is a mailing address - Keep up the good work.
Cheers.

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15 Oct 2011 23:12 - 15 Oct 2011 23:19 #129 by Phil Wood
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Did some Googling ... only 1 of these aeroplanes was produced.




The Vickers Type 163 was a prototype British biplane bomber design of the 1930s built by Vickers-Armstrong.

It was based on the Vickers Vanox (Vickers "Type 150") scaled up to take four engines in paired mountings. It was submitted both as a bomber and as a troop carrier to Air Ministry specifications B.19/27 and C.16/28 respectively first flying on 12 January 1931. Only one was produced.
[edit] Specifications (Type 163)

Data from The British Bomber since 1914 [1]

General characteristics

Crew: Four
Capacity: Provision for 10 armed troops
Length: 66 ft 9 in (20.35 m)
Wingspan: 90 ft 0 in (27.44 m)
Height: 22 ft 4 in (6.81 m)
Wing area: 1,948 ft² (181.0 m²)
Loaded weight: 25,700 lb (11,680 kg)
Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce Kestrel V-12, 480 hp (358 kW) each

Performance

Maximum speed: 139 kn (160 mph, 258 km/h) at 6,500 ft (1,980 m)
Range: 1,000 nmi (1,150 mi, 1,850 km)
Service ceiling: 25,200 ft (7,680 m)
Climb to 10,000 ft (3,050 m): 18 min 15 sec

Armament

Guns: 2 × .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis Guns (nose and tail gunners positions)
Bombs: Up to 12 × 250 lb (113 kg) bombs under fuselage

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15 Oct 2011 23:31 #130 by Phil Wood
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Your parcel of goodies is on its way Bloop but it may take a few days.
I had to send it "Standard parcels"... to get it there any faster would have cost an extra £7.00 postage & that's money that could go on more goodies. :)

I haven't included the dope, sanding sealer or those small wheels yet .... they were a bit tricky to pack with this so I'll fill a shoe box and get that off to you asap.

I did find some litho plate which may do for the metal you want ... bin it if not.
It's well over a meter long so I don't think it will go through your letter box. ... watch out for the post man after Tuesday.

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15 Oct 2011 23:35 - 15 Oct 2011 23:47 #131 by Phil Wood
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3D drawings Vickers 163

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16 Oct 2011 00:36 #132 by blooper
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thanks poly.

i have a copy of the original 1929 drawings courtesy of the brooklands museum trust.
the first draft had 6 guns and no wheel spats.
this is the one i am building.

not looked at it today, thought i would do something else.

i will send you the postage.
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16 Oct 2011 04:43 #133 by blooper
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been having a think about the rudder controls.

i have some thin brass bar, so i thought i would use it to make some fairleads that i can fit in the side of the fuselage to run the fishing trace through.
it has to run from the servo, throught the side of the fuse and out to 1 rudder, then from that rudder over to the other one and then back through the fuse to the servo.
gonna be fun getting it all tensioned right.

will look scale though. :P

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18 Oct 2011 23:23 #134 by Ex-Member
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not a very successful day today.
spent most of the day running round for other people.

i did get to spend all of 2 hours on my build.
cut the wire
made the groove
cut the sleeves
made the mount ( i hope)
had a trial fit.





the mount/hinge has to fitted to the top of 4 diagonal poles mounted to the fuselage, then the rudders hang off of the hooks on the end.
they then join up in the same way to the bottom tail plane and bobs ya uncle. ( we hope)

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19 Oct 2011 17:07 #135 by Ex-Member
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:angry:
spent ages trying to make up a jig to hold the top tailplane in place so i can make the support legs.

frustrating or what.
it needs to hold in 3 planes and still give me space to measure the bits i need to make.

keeps bloody moving. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

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