Trouble at Field

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25 Aug 2011 16:55 #1 by The Beard
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Weve a new neighbour,she s the one from hell.Her reputation has followed her apparently she complains to all neighbours about everything possible.She cme barging across our patch,whilst people were flying picked on one of the fglyers and promptly went into bullying mode sayine we fly over her house and she was a JP and having bought a million pound house wasnt going to allow a flying club to operate next door,even though we are some 600 mtres away with trees fields and hedgerows between us.Her house is to far away to fly near and is an area designated a no fly zone.After weeks of barracking from her to Environmental officers arrived at her home and to members of the committee were in attendance.THe end result was how sha she was informed thar the models cant really be heard unless flown close to her house which was explained we dont do,and conform to all regulations in place.I reported the facts in RCM and E about how she used her position as a JP to intimidate us following on by constantly lying to us about people flying over her house and flying at 7am whenm we dont fly until 10 am,and Timbo has closed the thread,love him :evil:

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25 Aug 2011 16:58 #2 by Phil Wood
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I read that thread a while back & it looked ok to me. What was the reason for closing it?

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25 Aug 2011 17:22 #3 by Garry Pollard
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I feel that the thread was closed, because it was mentioned that she was a JP in his last post.
The RCME site seem to run scared of authority, and as soon as someone with a title is mentioned the thread is closed. It is not the first time this has happened. Maybe they are worried that their advertisers will get upset.

That was why I took the liberty of PM ing Stephen this morning, and suggesting that the thread would not have been closed on an adult site say like Model Chat. Trust noone objects to my action.

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25 Aug 2011 18:51 #4 by Phil Wood
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Garry Pollard wrote: I feel that the thread was closed, because it was mentioned that she was a JP in his last post.

That was why I took the liberty of PM ing Stephen this morning, and suggesting that the thread would not have been closed on an adult site say like Model Chat. Trust noone objects to my action.

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I didn't see anything wrong with any post but I don't know if any posts were deleted.
I certainly wouldn't have closed it from what I've seen.
If it had mentioned polititicians I'd have been tempted to allow some serious swearing. :P

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25 Aug 2011 23:28 #5 by Eric
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Politicians --- self-serving pocket-liners!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!

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26 Aug 2011 12:06 #6 by Klipkopwildlife
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I find it sad that people think that because they have lots of money, they're better than people that don't. I find that generally they're less caring of the environment, less caring about the people around them.

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26 Aug 2011 15:24 #7 by Phil Wood
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Klipkopwildlife wrote: I find it sad that people think that because they have lots of money, they're better than people that don't


Quite agree Klippy. ;)
I hate the way some people think their position of employment gives them authority.
In Stephens case, this woman must have thought that being a JP gave her extra rights, otherwise why mention it?
This runs throughout our society. I want a passport and a person has to sign the back of my photograph.
The form gives a list of suitable people which include, Doctor, Teacher, Policeman, Solicitor, Etc.
Why are these occupations given more status than others? :S

If Stephens club go through all the right channels & procedures it should make no difference that the complainant is a JP .... Unfortunately it may not work that way if someone knows the right handshake. :(
If it came to the point where the club lose the sight, I'd have a word with a nosey reporter & see if they want to print a story.
"Judge uses position to stop 7 year old child playing with his toy aeroplane"!!!!!! :evil:

We can all play dirty if we try. :)

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26 Aug 2011 16:22 #8 by Klipkopwildlife
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The form gives a list of suitable people which include, Doctor, Teacher, Policeman, Solicitor, Etc.
For my money, the Police deserve to have extra rights.
What we get here is the NIMBY principle. Not In My Back Yard!

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10 Dec 2011 04:47 #9 by The Beard
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The meeting for the change of use was to be heard on 7th Dec.It is a fairly straight forward affair.Because we have been on the site for 26 years without complaint its virtually impossible to not have it granted.They have asked club members to send E mails confirming the length of time we have been there.2 club Committee members attended.The lady in question was there,she had an assistant,2solicitors and a barrister.The Barrister requested a prvate meeting with the chairman of the meeting.When they returned the club were permitted to ask what the meeting was about between Barrister and ChairmanIt was in fact that the barrister was bringing up that 2 microlites fly from the farm.This is nothing to do with us a.nd nothing to do with the application.It was explained that the application states The Fying of model aeroplanes,there argument was flawed.We were asked to send e mails confirming how long we have been flying there and was adjorned until 17th Dec. but the concensus was very much for the club

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10 Dec 2011 12:19 #10 by Klipkopwildlife
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So much for transparency, you can bet that an aweful lot more than just Microlights were discussed in that meeting! Which shouldn't have been allowed to happen, someone should have asked the Barrister to justify his request. We are situated under the GFA, (general flying area). but as a Game reserve, ANRs, (air navigation regulations) state, no flying under 1,000' AGL, (above ground level). The microlights consistently ignore this requirement! And, when you visit the strips with a Unfiormed Police Officer, (we have three airstrips in the area) to complain, the microlighters get positively aggressive!
We find microlights are the worst noise polluters, in fact it's the most efficient way of turning petrol into noise that I've ever heard!

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10 Dec 2011 14:53 #11 by Phil Wood
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I'm surprised that the barrister was granted a private meeting if it had anything to do with the case. The club should have been allowed to have a representative present.
How do you know the chairman wasn't being given a funny handshake or a plain brown envelope full of cash? .... not that these things happen in our legal system. :whistle:

I wonder if their barrister is going to try playing the card "The club is endangering full size aircraft" ?

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10 Dec 2011 16:11 #12 by Ex-Member
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just be prepared for the worst. :(

they will dig up some old law that will prohibit your plans.
money and title always wins in the end over the general public.

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10 Dec 2011 17:06 #13 by Flytilbroke
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Start a Harley Motor Cycle club, one or two bikes shared and no restriction on time of day on public roads. :evil:

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11 Dec 2011 02:57 #14 by The Beard
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Well we shall see in a weeks time

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11 Dec 2011 13:46 #15 by Klipkopwildlife
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Be afraid, be very, very afraid! No one arrives at a meeting with a Barrister in tow unless they mean to win, by fair means or foul!
I've always been suspicious of people who reach for their lawyer too quickly, and I've always been proved right!
The best approach might be to ask her to take photos and times of any aircraft seen in vicinity of her house, for say, two months.

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