Guillows Cessna 150 Conversion - Equipment Advice

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16 Jan 2013 18:12 - 16 Jan 2013 18:31 #1 by Rozza2013
Hi All,

I have been busy reading up as much as I can on the various Cessna 150 conversions. 60cm wingspan (dont really want to modify the plans)

I have started building my own but I have also been trying to wade through the vast amount of products out there to find the right equipment I need.

I have already purchased a TX (Spektrum DX4e 2.4GHz DSM from ebay )


Here is what I'm hoping to put in to the plane.

Orange Rx Reciever
(www.orangerx.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=45)

HK-5320 Ultra-Micro Digital Servo 1.7g / 0.05sec / 0.075kg
(www.orangerx.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=117)


MICRO AP03 4000kv Brushless Micro Motor (3.1g)
(www.orangerx.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=107)

TURNIGY Nano-Tech 370 mAh 2S 25~40C Lipo Pack
(www.orangerx.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=67)

HK 20A F/W Brushless ESC
(www.orangerx.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=55)


I am hoping that all this stuff is compatable. I did see a lighter weight ESC but it only had a 1A BEC output and im not sure what the servo and RX AMP ratings are? (www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2840...r_UK_Warehouse_.html)


I know the battery doesnt have a large capacity so any suggestions here would be good. Didnt want to make the plane too heavy or the battery be too big to fit in the plane. I think I have calculated the battery lasting about 5mins. Can anyone confirm this?

Perhaps this might be a better battery if its not too heavy or too big?
(www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__1189...5_40C_Lipo_Pack.html)

I was hoping this plane wouldnt fly too fast either as this is my first one.


Any help or advice would be much appriciated.
Last edit: 16 Jan 2013 18:31 by Rozza2013. Reason: Links didnt work

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16 Jan 2013 18:14 - 17 Jan 2013 20:12 #2 by Rozza2013
Here are some pictures of my build so far















Last edit: 17 Jan 2013 20:12 by Klipkopwildlife.

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16 Jan 2013 19:30 - 16 Jan 2013 19:37 #3 by Garry Pollard
Replied by Garry Pollard on topic Guillows Cessna 150 Conversion - Equipment Advice
Hi Rozza
Let me first welcome you to Modelchat. We are a very friendly bunch here, and have some very good fliers on here, and Tony is our resident super builder. If you have a few spare minuites, we do have an "Introduce Yourself" thread, which gives us an insight to your flying and building skills. Do not be afraid to ask questions, as the only stupid ones are the ones you DONT ask. You will find that we treat all members as adults. Read the rules, there are not many, and have a good look round. Have fun on here, we do.

Garry
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16 Jan 2013 19:48 #4 by Garry Pollard
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Hi again Rozza,

I have just been looking at your choice of first model, and must say it would not be MY first choice, if I was just starting out, which happened 50 yrs ago. On a quick look at what equipment you have obtained for the model, I cant at first sight, see any glaring faults, apart from the model size. I usually recommend a span of 60 inch minimum, rather than the 24 inch you have chosen. The larger span enables you to keep the wing loading down, and the speed of the model. However you neglected to say if this was for indoor or outdoor flying, and if the former, I can see why the span choice.
I think we need a little more info from you, before trying to help. The building is very good by the way

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16 Jan 2013 20:02 #5 by Rozza2013
The reason for the choice initially was due to the kit only costing me £10 instead of £24 because the shop priced it wrong. Also it has the option of being rubber band plane which i thought i could do first with my son and then change it to elecric. But I have decided upon the electric option first of all.

It would be nice to fly indoor, although to start with I was hoping to fly it outdoors where there is alot of room lol.

I have seen this plane online www.tjshobbies.co.uk/product_info.php?cP...40_42&products_id=75
(I was looking purely equip and size wise) and is very similar setup.

Cost wise I thought its a very cheap kit and hopefully parts will be not too bad either. And could then build a bigger plane at a later stage.

Many thanks for your help :)

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16 Jan 2013 20:03 #6 by Rozza2013
Im presuming that the flight time of my setup (if it was compatable and didnt explode on plugging it in) would only be around 5mins???

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16 Jan 2013 20:10 #7 by The Beard
I fly a small j3 cub indoors and it flies for an age.great fun but the small ones are more difficult to fly than a 60 inch .there more forgiving and stable. More time to put mistakes right.

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16 Jan 2013 20:15 #8 by Rozza2013
What battery do you have in that? And what is the weight of the plane?

I suppose the calculation I have tried to do, presumed that if my plane is flying at full speed then it would only last for 5 mins (maybe)

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16 Jan 2013 20:50 #9 by Eric
If this is your first ever r/c plane, you have a tiger by the tail! Not only will it have to fly very fast, to support the weight of the gear, but it will disappear from view very quickly. It is not just a case of seeing the model, it is one of seeing WHAT IT IS DOING and which way it is going. At 100 yards, it will be almost out of sight, and it will get that far in about five seconds!
Then - it is designed as a rubber-powered free-flight, so the wings will probably not be strong enough to take the added weight, and if you give it a violent turn, that will probably be the last one!
For a learner model (a trainer!) you need a large, light model, because light means slow, and large means distance! 50"/5 feet/152 centipedes minimum wingspan.
THEN - you need to join a club, and learn how to fly a model plane. It looks easy, but it isn't! You will also need insurance, in case you manage to fly it through Fred Bloggs' car windscreen, or hit Fred with it, and put him in hospital for a month, with associated loss of earnings etc!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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16 Jan 2013 21:51 #10 by Rozza2013
Thank you for your feed back.

I have found a club near by, and I will be joining before doing any flying :)

It sounds like I have a fight on my hands. Are you able to recomend any balsa trainers for me? which I could use similar equipment for?

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16 Jan 2013 22:09 #11 by Ex-Member
hi

you don't HAVE to join a club, but insurance would be a good idea.

i am self taught as every club was full and still is.

a good trainer is a god send when learning.

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16 Jan 2013 22:15 #12 by Rozza2013
Would I only be insured though if I had proven that I could fly a plane etc?

As there are some local parks near me which are quite big and on the right day there is noone around.

Reason I thought about a flying club was I could garuntee the field would be free of other people etc.

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16 Jan 2013 22:22 #13 by Garry Pollard
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Hi Rozza

Go to the BMFA website. You will be directed on how to obtain insurance. Poss quicker to phone them though. Please do not fly without insurance, for £32, i believe, it is just not worth the risk

Garry

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16 Jan 2013 22:24 #14 by Garry Pollard
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The reason you need a club, is for tuition, ie learning to fly. As Eric says, it looks easy, its NOT

Garry

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16 Jan 2013 22:50 #15 by old fart
As Garry said, flying models is NOT as easy as it looks, it's probably easier to learn to fly full size than models but with more risk to oneself.

There is nothing like a dream to create the future.

Electrickery is the work of the devil.
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