Guillows Cessna 150 Conversion - Equipment Advice

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16 Jan 2013 22:51 #16 by Garry Pollard
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Rozza2013 wrote: Thank you for your feed back.

I have found a club near by, and I will be joining before doing any flying :)

It sounds like I have a fight on my hands. Are you able to recomend any balsa trainers for me? which I could use similar equipment for?


Short answer to your last question is NO. Due to most of the components, ie ESC , motor and Lipo would be much too small for what we normally recommend as a first trainer

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16 Jan 2013 23:04 - 16 Jan 2013 23:04 #17 by Eric
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As Garry said - those radio components would be fine for a flimsy indoor model weighing a couple of ounces! You need 'standard' servos, and a full-range receiver, not a park-fly one - there IS a difference.

If you want to fly electric, there is a lot to learn about component matching, although your local shop should sell you the right stuff for the model you choose.
In some ways, a combustion engine is easier, BUT they are noisy, and as soon as you start it up, in the park, kids will materialize from nowhere! They are also messy, and you have to clean the model after use, or you get used oil everywhere.
There are a lot of safety considerations with both kinds of power - for you, first off - if you want to keep all your fingers attached to your hands, and for others around you.
It doesn't matter whether you go for electric or combustion, you have a CIRCULAR SAW on the front of your model, turning at up to 10,000 rpm, and that will make a nasty mess of anything that gets in its way.
A proper instructor, at a proper club, will teach you all you need to know, whereas trying to go it alone, you will learn the painful way!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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17 Jan 2013 01:37 #18 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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Hi Rozza, welcome to model chat :)

Your build looks great and these guys are the best for giving good helpful advice. It is daunting trying to pick your first model as its a lot of money that could, potentially, end up decorating the inside of a black bin bag lol, these guys were fantastic in helping me pick my first model -a multiplex funcub, big wing span of 55" making it a nice docile slow flyer with a short take off capacity but which can handle a wide repertoire of aerobatics so I can learn more maneuvers as I progress. Fairly easy to build for my first build so ideal for me.
Regarding insurance I agree with the guys, it isn't a legal requirement and you dont have to prove you can fly it to get insurance but I think its a definite must even if you are flying in a big field with no one about- it covers you completely just incase, and you never know who might be walking their dog about or if a car is passing on the other side of a hedge! I bought my insurance independently through the link Eric and Garry have provided with the BMFA. It lapsed at the end of December and the only reason I haven't renewed it yet is I want to join a club so my fee there will incorporate the insurance. If I cant get in a club I will renew it with the BMFA and its easy to do though Rozza via the link or give them a ring.
Also agree with the guys on a club, I was lucky that Simon on here let me fly his planes and he is a brilliant, patient teacher so I hope to continue this but I like you want to join a club so I have more access to a designated flying area and have lessons so can pass my A cert.

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17 Jan 2013 01:59 #19 by kamco kid
Welcome from me too Rozza, it's always nice to see new blood joining our hobby.
In my opinion,as has already been mentioned, joining a club would be your best first step, many have a club trainer that you can sharpen your teeth on before you take your pride and joy out for the first time.
If you are wanting to learn on such a small model (there are no hard and fast rules after all), I would suggest being buddy leaded to an experienced pilot to start with.
It may have started off as a bargain purchase, but that novelty soon wears off if they join the bin bag brigade on their maiden flight.

It is possible to learn solo, I know a few peeps who have done it, but it's so much easier with a tutor (and easier on the pocket too)

Whichever path you choose, best of luck, enjoy the ride and welcome to the sport of model flying :)

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17 Jan 2013 02:57 #20 by Rozza2013
Thank you all for your advise.

Once I have built this one I will go to the local club and have a chat. Will defo get insurance though.

I'll keep an eye out for a trainer plane (hopefully electric)

Cheers

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17 Jan 2013 03:22 #21 by The Beard
Its the Parkzone J3 cub and its ready to fly.The battery is3.7 volt 120mAh lipo,and comes with the model
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17 Jan 2013 03:23 - 17 Jan 2013 03:23 #22 by The Beard
Here tis.weight is jolly light :whistle: [badass]
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17 Jan 2013 03:29 #23 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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OT a bit but there is a live chat on here Rozza if you ever want to pop in, say hello and ask any questions too

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17 Jan 2013 04:35 #24 by Garry Pollard
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Not seen a mention of your location. A rough idea would do. Also the BMFA website has a list of clubs in location order.

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17 Jan 2013 04:54 #25 by Rozza2013
I live about 3 miles north of Manchester centre.

www.bmmfc.com/ <- this is the club I have been looking at

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17 Jan 2013 05:01 #26 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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Thats the same one I was looking at joining too, along with Ashton, Bolton, rochdale or hough end as I am south manchester

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17 Jan 2013 05:02 #27 by Garry Pollard
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That sounds a good club, with instructors and not saying as a lot of them do that they are full. I would go for it !!!

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17 Jan 2013 14:06 #28 by Rozza2013

Thats the same one I was looking at joining too, along with Ashton, Bolton, rochdale or hough end as I am south manchester


Somebody from work recommended them. I have emailed them and they sounded friendly enough, said that if I could just go and see them and have a chat etc.

I have had another quick look at trainers what do you think to the below?

www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2908...F_UK_Warehouse_.html

or this if it comes back into stock? www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__2096..._Kit_890mm_KIT_.html

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17 Jan 2013 15:47 #29 by The Beard
I think there still to small,how much do you want to spend lets go from there.Do you want to fly electric presume so good start less to think about,

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17 Jan 2013 16:05 #30 by Garry Pollard
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Hi Rozza

You have opened up a large subject here, and unfortunatly without full info, we are struggling to give you a complete answer.
We know know you are a non flyer without a club backup and live in the Manchester Area. Next we want to know what sort of a budget you are prepared to make available , wheather you want to build a kit, or wish to get flying quickly with an ARTF model and is your preference electric or i/c power. These questions are crucial to which way we are able to steer you

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