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06 Apr 2016 04:40 #16 by one tenor
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Love the pipette idea with the needle tip and those pins are great. Just the right length and pretty with it

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06 Apr 2016 07:14 #17 by Ex-Member
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......A question for Andy if he is about, I have "cracked" the fuselage just behind F6 as the instructions say. They do not mention doing anything to that crack? I have worked some balsa cement into the crack with my finger, does that seem about right?......


Yep, that's what I do, but while t's drying, make sure that the fuselage is jigged the way you want it so that the cement skin doesn't pull it out of shape.

If you really want to make a smooth job of it, Deluxe Materials Lightweight Filler is perfect for the job. As its name suggests, it's extremely light and it sands well too. It's not a 'structural' filler, though, so the model needs to be sounds before you start filling bits.

www.deluxematerials.co.uk/en/search?cont...+lite&submit_search=

While I'm at it, if you have any small dents in the balsa, rather than filling, just flood them with a bit of water (I rub a bit of saliva into the area) and in most cases, the dent will disappear as the water dries off. If it doesn't, try again, then use filler if still required. Try it on a bit of scrap balsa and you'll see what I mean.

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12 Apr 2016 20:00 #18 by Septic
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Thanks Andy, sorry i didn't respond sooner I have been away :(
I try not to use filler, but when I do I use some very light stuff, Red Devil One Time is the name :)
lifting dents with water is an old trick but very useful, I must confess to using that trick too :). Good to highlight them though for those that didn't know.
I have finished the rest of the bulkheads and stringers, just about to think about the upper decking. The plans say paper or 1/32 balsa. I have never used paper so am drawn to using thin balsa, using the paper as templates. What does the "Dark Lord" suggest ?

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13 Apr 2016 06:50 #19 by Ex-Member
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Paper or balsa? It's horses for courses Septic.

On my VMC Me109, I used 100gsm paper with tissue pre-stuck on using a glue stick as suggested in the instructions. Using the glue stick to attach the paper panels to the model didn't work too well though, I had better luck with tissue paste. However, I think the overall effect worked quite well:



On the other hand, I normally use light balsa sheet. Here's an example with the BE2C I did for AeroModeller at the end of 2014. I make up a paper pattern then transfer it to balsa. It's stuck on using Aliphatic resin:





If I ever use paper, I normally use airmail weight, which is around 35gsm. I tape it to a board, water shrink it, then dope it. It gives a very good simulation of weathered plywood. Here's an example stuck to the side of my Gloucester Gannet. I use either tissue paste (as here) or photo mount to fix it to the airframe. The tissue paste causes wrinkles, but they disappear when it dries:

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13 Apr 2016 11:06 - 13 Apr 2016 11:08 #20 by Septic
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Thanks Andy, materials and methods I am not familiar with hence perhaps opting for the thin balsa route......... :S
I have a little while to think it over while I do a few other small tasks.
The jig for the cabane struts fits an absolute treat :)



The instructions suggest fitting the cabanes next, but I am wondering if the balsa/paper would be easier now......

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****Just realised the jig wont fit if the paper/balsa skins are fitted DOH! ****

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14 Apr 2016 09:33 #21 by Septic
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Only had a very brief few minutes in the workshop yesterday following some hectic days at work. But managed to get the cabane struts shaped and attached. I think I am going to try attaching the tissue onto the pre doped framework using thinners, on the basis I have thinners. Though a 50/50 mix of pva sounded do-able too.....
Anyway couldn't resist the all time modellers favorite pastime, dry assembly over a cup of tea and a rich tea biccy :)



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14 Apr 2016 09:40 #22 by Ex-Member
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What a lovely model and so well put together as well.

must be something in the Free Flight malarkey. :P

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14 Apr 2016 09:53 #23 by Septic
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Not sure a more relaxing way to build than with one of these kits, still feels like cheating! Not sure I could have cut out the parts :( a real dark art.....

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14 Apr 2016 15:49 #24 by Ex-Member
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Wow! The mark of a 'good' model is that it looks the part when dry assembled pre-covering....and this one really does look the part!

Nicely done Septic!

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14 Apr 2016 16:32 #25 by Septic
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Thanks Andy, all down to the quality of the kit, nothing to do with me :)
I am mildly concened that the Superphatic is going to show through :(

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14 Apr 2016 16:56 #26 by Septic
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Noseplug shaped and laminated......



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14 Apr 2016 19:56 #27 by Graeme
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Looking great Septic, I too have completed my first VMC model in a Peacemaker Control Liner and was very impressed with the quality. Your thread and others have made me look at some rubber powered free flighters now
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14 Apr 2016 20:12 #28 by Septic
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I have enjoyed following your Peacemaker build. There seems to be a big resurgence in the classics which is great Belair are also doing some. But these VMC kits are wonderful quality :)
Which rubber model are you going to do?

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14 Apr 2016 21:32 #29 by Graeme
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I have a soft spot for Hurricanes & Tiger Moths, fancy the 150 series simply because they are slightly larger and I'm always told bigger flies better. Can't decide between the two so might have to be greedy lol

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14 Apr 2016 22:46 #30 by one tenor
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Beautiful stuff sir

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