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20 Dec 2013 23:31 - 20 Dec 2013 23:34 #91 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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Do you mean the top spar on the tailplane (remember I am still new to remembering all the bits on this, think it will take a few more builds before my brain remembers them!)
the fin will fit into the gap, like so, then the leading edge will rest on a plywood wingseat that is attached in a notch to the fuselage. If that helps? There isnt anything as such to tie over the top spar, bar the covering when it gets done. But for the trailing edge and leading edge, the fin should help keep that more rigid I assume? This is also kept attached with rubber bands that wrap around the tailplane and a dowel just beneath the leading edge.



Needs a bit of light sanding to make sure it fits flush, not too happy about the way it was pre cut but not hard to sort out.

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20 Dec 2013 23:38 - 20 Dec 2013 23:40 #92 by alan cantwell
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Sorry, not looked in for a while, stockport models trades from home, web only, if you want to carry on with this type of build--and why not? then you want the WESTINGS series, not only do they look well, they actually FLY, i will sort out this cra--erm, stuff for you next week, in there, is a small 3 channel model, that needs superficial covering repair, a small lekky motor, and radio, and you ill be flying 3 channel radio, then, there is the mini IFO, lots of fun, and crashproof, let me know what tools you havnt got, i have them in spades, and i will find you enough balsa to play with, let me know what you may be needing, and i will have a dig around,

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21 Dec 2013 01:06 #93 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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alan cantwell wrote: Sorry, not looked in for a while, stockport models trades from home, web only, if you want to carry on with this type of build--and why not? then you want the WESTINGS series, not only do they look well, they actually FLY, i will sort out this cra--erm, stuff for you next week, in there, is a small 3 channel model, that needs superficial covering repair, a small lekky motor, and radio, and you ill be flying 3 channel radio, then, there is the mini IFO, lots of fun, and crashproof, let me know what tools you havnt got, i have them in spades, and i will find you enough balsa to play with, let me know what you may be needing, and i will have a dig around,

www.westwings.co.uk/?p=products


yeah!!! Thank you very much, just buzz me or text me when you are free- I will take anything hehe am limited on tools so whatever you have spare will be mucho appreciated. :kiss:

Well guys, am nearly there!








Just wanted to see what it would look like all together and am well chuffed to little mint balls!!! When I first read the plan and instructions I really doubted I could do this but thanks to all of you for your really kind words of encouragement and help :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

got to get some new rubber bands to go around the wings ( They are a bit brittle the ones that came with it and have snapped- guess thats age lol), drill underneath the wing seat doublers so can put in a dowel for the rubber on the wings to attach to, add ballast and a bit of tidying up and voila.


Very happy :) :) :)

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21 Dec 2013 04:37 #94 by Dean M
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Looks fantastic Sarah
What will you be covering it with?

Somebody called me 'pretentious' the other day.

I nearly choked on my latte.
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21 Dec 2013 07:23 #95 by Klipkopwildlife
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Wing bands should be kept in the fridge, they last longer!
If you can, buy from a large Stationary store, they often have a good range and a faster turnover. Perhaps someone can recommend a product that you can rub into the bands to make them last longer.

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21 Dec 2013 08:18 - 21 Dec 2013 08:40 #96 by Ex-Member
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In respect of the tail;plane spar, I agree with Eric and Q in that normally the spar should carry through for strength. However, in this case, the spar would meet at an angle at the joint, so if it did carry though it would still rely on a small glued area. In any event, on this tailplane, you have some quite beefy gussets attached to quite beefy LE and TEs, so there shouldn't be a problem. The fin, when attached, should also spread the load over the two root ribs.

PS - good point on the rubber bands K, in fact a lot of the competition FF boys keep their rubber in the freezer! I buy mine from Staples, btw. They have a soft and good stretch which is ideal for holding flying surfaces on a lightweight model.
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21 Dec 2013 09:18 #97 by Garry Pollard
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I LOVE Sarah s last comment "Very Happy :) :) :) "
That comment says it all, cos at the end of the day, this is the reason we do this very addictive hobby

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21 Dec 2013 09:41 #98 by alan cantwell
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i always keep my lacky bands in a plastic bag, with a generous amount of talcum powder, keep them dry,
RIGHT,
swan morton surgical knife, and LOTS of blades, but these aqre the same as surgeons use, so be carefull,
Razor saw, and maybe a handle,
Razor plane, if i can find one that takes standard razor blades,
miss bits of balsa and block,
can anyone think of anything else, if i have it in multiples, then no problem,
PLANES,
3Channel type trainer,
various other things that are going to get thrown out,
lightspan covering material, and some balsa lock, IF i can find them,

anthing else anyone can think of, i will try to find, lets have a list, its christmas after all, HURRY UP

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21 Dec 2013 09:57 - 21 Dec 2013 09:58 #99 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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Dean I have nooooooooo idea lol! It comes with white tissue, and I do love the balsa wood being bare (but it wont fly like that will it haha) put white tissue on and you could prolly see the balsa through it in the sun however for some reason tissue doesnt feel right on this plane, prefer tissue on the WW1 planes and pre WW1

Will raid Mr Cantwells goodie box.

I think the rubber bands have snapped because the kit is about 30 years old lol, obviously gone brittle so will get a bag of bands some time

Ohhhh MR C :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: Am stuck till after xmas day, so if you are free next weekend (just after xmas) let me know :)

PS- keep looking at it and grinning, I can build after all :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) and even better Garry is right, it is fun!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I wish I was a glow worm, a glow worm's never glum.
Cos how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?!
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21 Dec 2013 10:04 #100 by Ex-Member
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right.
time for the 1/4 scale spit next then. :woohoo:

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21 Dec 2013 10:19 #101 by Sarah-Jane Smith
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Tony B wrote: right.
time for the 1/4 scale spit next then. :woohoo:



Hahahahahah I wish!! One day ....sigh, love the spitfire!

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21 Dec 2013 12:23 #102 by alan cantwell
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want some spitfire books then, put them on the pile

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21 Dec 2013 13:00 #103 by Klipkopwildlife
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I like em bare too! [badass]

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21 Dec 2013 13:19 #104 by Eric
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As you now know, it isn't as difficult as you feared, is it, Sarah? It's almost easier than putting that plastic thing together, and at the end, you can say shout I did it!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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21 Dec 2013 16:32 #105 by Ex-Member
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alan cantwell wrote: i always keep my lacky bands in a plastic bag, with a generous amount of talcum powder, keep them dry,
RIGHT,
swan morton surgical knife, and LOTS of blades, but these aqre the same as surgeons use, so be carefull,
Razor saw, and maybe a handle,
Razor plane, if i can find one that takes standard razor blades,
miss bits of balsa and block,
can anyone think of anything else, if i have it in multiples, then no problem,
PLANES,
3Channel type trainer,
various other things that are going to get thrown out,
lightspan covering material, and some balsa lock, IF i can find them,

anthing else anyone can think of, i will try to find, lets have a list, its christmas after all, HURRY UP


Razor Saw
Sanding blocks
Files
Pliers
Wire cutters
Elec soldering iron, solder, fusewire
Drills
Pin vice for above
Rubber winder
Torque meter
winding tube
Stooge
Micrometer
small scales (to weigh to 0.1 gm)

Is that enough Alan, or do you need more.... ;-)

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