ASW 17 Sailplane

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31 Mar 2025 17:02 #1 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Just got a plan for this model it looks a challenging build  , the last glider i built was in 2010 in North Cyprus, a 3M home design that was powered by a small motor it flew very well
And when i was otherwise detained by the Turks Natalia brought it to the South Cyprus with all my other models and building gear
I flew it a lot at Lady Mile until we had a wing fold up high with the resulting call for a bin bag
I will have to have a new bigger top on my building board but will only be a sheet of plaster board, t has a wingspan of 4M 
Next problem it getting the balsa to build it as no body seems to have any choice of whats available 
I do like a big model 
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01 Apr 2025 12:46 #2 by Eric
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Is it a Mike Trew or a Cliff Charlesworth drawing?

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01 Apr 2025 14:51 #3 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Mike Trew

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01 Apr 2025 16:06 #4 by Eric
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I've not looked at his site for around 10 years, but he USED to sell ready-made tapered carbon spars for the wings, and moulded canopies.

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01 Apr 2025 19:32 #5 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Iv just read that the design is old hat with the wing section, wish i had read that first 
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01 Apr 2025 22:43 #6 by THE BLACKBIRD
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This build is cancelled, i put a order together for the materials ill need to build it, eye watering
I cannot justify spending that amount of money anymore, i never used to care if i wanted something i got it, but not now with all the bills going up
Although my son starts a new job tomorrow   hes been out of work since a week before Christmas, mind i dont think he looked to hard 
So all is on hold
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10 Apr 2025 17:00 #7 by THE BLACKBIRD
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I sit here dying from my man flue, bless you Karen   dont get to close to the screen or you will for sure catch it, its that bad
Anyway i have found a length of 18mm carbon tube in the cave so im going to construct a glider around it
Im planning on going to Cyprus later this year if things work out, which i dont suppose they will for one second, im looking at October as i always thought it was the best month to visit there weather wise for someone not used to the heat
And i can take the glider with me to do some flying while there i thought, i found a little studio flat for rent at 50 euro a night self catering so it sound ok
 
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11 Apr 2025 08:03 #8 by Eric
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How do you plan on getting your model and radio gear TO Cyprus, BB?
From what I hear, airlines are extremely fussy on what they will carry, now, and it has to fit into a standard bag or case - or they won't even let it on the aircraft, except as a sealed crate in the hold, and they are charged by dimensions and weight. Then there are the batteries  are you going to buy some in Cyprus?

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11 Apr 2025 09:02 #9 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Ill have to check that Eric never had a problem before, mind that was five years ago, i came back from Cyprus with a box 6'long 2'3" wide and 2' high, got a few looks but no problems
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16 Apr 2025 12:55 #10 by THE BLACKBIRD
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I contacted 4Max twice and had no reply, are they still going or have they shut down, anybody know
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16 Apr 2025 13:18 - 16 Apr 2025 13:20 #11 by Eric
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Did you email to - - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
The site is still there! - - - www.4-max.co.uk/

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16 Apr 2025 14:24 #12 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Yes to the sales one, i see the other on is different, im looking for a motor for the glider a 2220 can and esc, i have a motor that i got off him for the B36 but its to big and also a 4 s one i only want a 3s
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17 Apr 2025 22:51 - 18 Apr 2025 11:04 #13 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Got a delivery today from balsa cabin and now iv come to the conclusion that this hobby is to expensive to bother with, now who would have thought that
But ill finish off this glider build but it could be the last
 
£60 odd quids worth there, a few sheets of balsa and a couple of carbon tubes 
But as iv already started ill finish it, being as im using a carbon tube for the rear fuselage then that has to be the place to start to get the fin and tailplain all squared up before fixing to the main part of the fuselage
Tailplain  
Fin on the the carbon tube
Fin and detachable tailplain mount in position 
Now the whole assembly set up 
More to come when i win the lottery 
Seems i have cocked the photos up, been a bad bad day with my heart problems so ill use that as an excuse 
Thats my egg and chips set up in my shed as im not allowed to cook it in the house LOL
 
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Last edit: 18 Apr 2025 11:04 by Klipkopwildlife. Reason: corrected spacing to put the photos outside the lines of text instead of in the middle!
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18 Apr 2025 08:07 #14 by Eric
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You might need the tailplane a fraction further forward, so the elevator doesn't hit the fin leading edge - in the full down position.

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19 Apr 2025 07:28 #15 by THE BLACKBIRD
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It clears it ok Eric
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