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16 Sep 2017 19:26 #46 by Squirrelnet
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Hmm... the old loss leader , now we have the users we''l make em' pay approach [badass]

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27 Sep 2017 19:59 #47 by Ex-Member
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After a weeks holiday i am back on this slow job.



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28 Sep 2017 20:04 #48 by Ex-Member
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Painted the tailplane black this morning as it makes marking out the rivets easier.

then we started blobbing glue about.




as far as i can see and i am open to correction here, the elevators have a metal leading and trailing edge with fabric between them.
so i now need to find out if the fabric was stitched or how it was fixed to the ribs.
we plod on slowly.

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28 Sep 2017 22:59 #49 by Eric
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Ask the BoB flight, or nip around to Duxford! :P

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29 Sep 2017 09:15 #50 by Quorneng
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Is the use of a serif font correct for the squadron letters?
The pictures I have show them all ways 'sans-serif' but I may be wrong.
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29 Sep 2017 10:18 #51 by Ex-Member
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it should look something like this... i hope

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29 Sep 2017 11:09 #52 by Klipkopwildlife
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Is it possible that due to the availability of a particular size of aluminium panel this gave rise to the abnormal number of riveted pieces? Just asking!

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29 Sep 2017 11:24 #53 by one tenor
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Hi Klip ! On a flush skin wouldn't that mean double rows of rivets .? One each side of the join

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29 Sep 2017 11:47 #54 by Quorneng
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It would appear that whoever painted the letters on some of 15 squadrons Lancasters did not exactly follow the Air Ministry instructions :P which states squadron letters in the appropriate colour (initially grey, then red and post 1945? white) are to be of 6" wide stokes.
I cannot find an actual photo of LS-P but there is one of LS-W that clearly shows it had that type of lettering although a photo of LS-H shows it had conventional ones.

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29 Sep 2017 13:19 #55 by one tenor
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Weren't they supposed to be "Sans Serif " too?

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29 Sep 2017 14:15 - 29 Sep 2017 14:45 #56 by Klipkopwildlife
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one tenor wrote: Hi Klip ! On a flush skin wouldn't that mean double rows of rivets .? One each side of the join

Definitely. But on a Lancaster it would seem that very few of the panels are shaped but quite a few are bent in one plane. And I'm interested to know what the original sheet size was.

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29 Sep 2017 14:51 #57 by one tenor
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Agreed Klip but it would surely still mean double rows of rivets wouldn't it? I haven't been close up to a Lanc but I haven't seen 2 rows in any pics either .Have you ?

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29 Sep 2017 15:02 - 29 Sep 2017 15:03 #58 by Ex-Member
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there are double rows of rivets on all the section joins.
if the panels were joggled so they overlaped there would be only one row of rivets


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29 Sep 2017 15:23 - 29 Sep 2017 15:26 #59 by Quorneng
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It does appear that the elevator was fabric covered with the stitching taped over in the conventional way.
This period document (from the Haynes manual?) gives an idea of what it looked like compared to the clearly riveted tail plane. It also gives an indication of the sheet sizes!
Having said that this You Tube video shows the elevator skin of the Canadian Lancaster being removed by drilling out the rivets! :P

Maybe the Avro Canada ones were different.
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29 Sep 2017 19:37 #60 by Eric
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Don't overlook the consideration that they were not expected to last very long, so they were designed for ease of assembly by mostly unskilled labour, rather than for perfect flowing lines!

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