1966 Pattern ship

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03 Jan 2013 19:05 #16 by Ex-Member
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Still working on the wing.




found the plan for a 1975 pattern ship in the shed as well.

Had the fuselage kicking round for ages now, just need to make a wing.
62" wingspan
6 to 7lb flying weight.

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03 Jan 2013 19:20 - 03 Jan 2013 20:29 #17 by THE BLACKBIRD
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How strong is the centre joint on the wing Tony, cannot see much in the way of strength holding the two halfs .
Looking good though, and very quick, :)
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03 Jan 2013 19:59 #18 by Eric
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A glass bandage was the usual solution to the problem, tapered, of course, thus spreading the high stress area as far as possible, with no sharp cut-off point, which would be where the wing would fail.
I recognise, but can't at this moment, name the other model in Tony's pic. It might be one of Phil Kraft's fleet.

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!

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03 Jan 2013 21:57 - 03 Jan 2013 22:24 #19 by Ex-Member
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there is no mention of a glass bandage on the plans.
there is a 1/2 balsa and ply brace across the front.
2 1/2 balsa webs at the spars and there will be a hardwood brace/ mount at the t/e.
though i think a glass bandage round the middle might be an idea for peace of mind.

Well i am plodding on with sheeting the wing, 10 sheets of 1'6mm balsa later.








the other one is a lancer sl-62 by Sterling of philadelphia.
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04 Jan 2013 01:10 #20 by Ex-Member
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wing is sheeted.


now we can start the fuselage.
cutting formers.
ply ones first.

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04 Jan 2013 03:24 #21 by Ex-Member
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well as you lot were not talking to me on chat i decided to cut the rest of the formers from 3mm balsa.



can cut the fuselage sides out tomorrow and then make the jig needed to assemble the fuselage.

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05 Jan 2013 02:20 #22 by Ex-Member
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Jig for the fuselage built.


first fuselage side on the jig and getting the doublers fitted.


when lifted off the jig we have a curve built in.


both sides coming together.

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06 Jan 2013 01:39 - 06 Jan 2013 01:42 #23 by Ex-Member
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well as it was wet (yet again) i did some more building.

Finished fitting the fuselage formers and started planking.


making up the battery hatch.


planked.


Hatch off.


Just having an offer up.



Made up the battery tray, not fitting it yet until i am sure where to put it.
made up the servo tray as well.

need to sort out the elevator joiner, it is supposed to have 2 control rods, one for each elevator.
i want to fit a rod joiner with a central horn inside the fuselage.,
need to find a supplier of one as i cant silver solder.
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06 Jan 2013 03:35 - 06 Jan 2013 03:36 #24 by Ex-Member
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now i have a problem.
the mark 8 has a split elevator.
the plan has no suggestions on how to do it.
the elevator of course is swept back.
so.
do i use 2 control horns and 2 rods joined together.
or do i get a torque rod to join them together
or do i get a torque rod with a central horn.
and can you buy them ready made as my silver soldering is shite.
confused.
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06 Jan 2013 03:41 #25 by Eric
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The easy way is to fit a ball and socket on a horn to each ele half, with a Y shaped pushrod inside the fuz. A straight pre-bent torque rod won't work, because the hinge-lines are all wrong. Or you could be clever, and fit tailerons! (left main wing aileron up, left half taileron up) It is supposed to give you a straighter roll.

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06 Jan 2013 03:46 #26 by Ex-Member
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i need to do it next before i can finish sheeting the underside of the fuselage.

just want something that will be safe and strong and simple to do.

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06 Jan 2013 16:19 #27 by Klipkopwildlife
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For the cost of them, I'd use two 7gram servos and a 'Y' lead! Or is the elevator too thin?

Do it now, you may never get another chance

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06 Jan 2013 16:43 #28 by Klipkopwildlife
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Duh, of course the elevator's too thin! The next best option is 2 servos is the fuselage with helicopter style ball joints on the elevator horns. Another way is to use two snakes, but cross them over in the tail so that you get a reasonably straight run to the horn (it doesn't have to be all that straight) the snake will allow a certain amount of movement. Inside the fuselage bind the two snakes together to a single 'Z' bend onto the servo.:) If you connect close to the hinge line on the horn you'll limit the movement and use at the very least a quality standard servo!

Do it now, you may never get another chance
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07 Jan 2013 22:25 #29 by Ex-Member
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So this afternoon after doing my jobs round the house for swmbo i sat down and made a start.

glued the tailplane on and built up the rest of the fuselage tail.


Then we stuck the fin on.

and while the superfast glue was drying i cut out and sanded down the rudder, hinged it and pushed it in place.


The we cut out and shaped the elevators, hinged and pushed them in place.


Just for a laugh i clamped the wing on and took some pictures.




Hopefully back to the wing tomorrow.

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09 Jan 2013 01:32 - 09 Jan 2013 01:41 #30 by Ex-Member
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not a very successful day today i am afraid.:(

got told off for sanding in doors and had to do a big clean up.

still i got the leading and trailing edges done.
the front ply brace on.
the aileron servo sorted and made a start on the wing tips.




started another job as it did not involve sanding.
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