1966 Pattern ship

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09 Jun 2013 20:45 #91 by Ex-Member
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well garry flew it today.
claims it fly's very well but is fast.
"the Pattern ship Tony built for me. Does it shift, it like a bullet, very very fast. Had half a flight with it, until the motor shed the prop,spinner, and nuts and washers in the long grass about 200 yds away. The motor screamed up then stopped,as it had burned itself out ??? ESC is fine. When the prop went , I thought now we will see what the glide is like, absolutly perfect, managed to line it up and drop it in to a perfect landing"

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09 Jun 2013 21:03 #92 by Eric
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Didn't I just read those words in another thread? :P :woohoo:

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!

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10 Jun 2013 04:15 #93 by The Beard
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Another successful build completed congratulations Tony.

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11 Jun 2013 16:06 - 12 Jun 2013 09:07 #94 by Garry Pollard
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Hi all,
Time to put this thread to bed I think, so here is the flying report on the model.

As stated earlier, the maiden was only a 2 min flight due to the motor shedding the prop, so yesterday I remotored the model, and substituted a 35/48 for the supplied 35/36 supplied motor.

So today was the second maiden I guess.
It was blowing poss 15 mph when I arrived at the airfield. a fact I was pleased about as the model glides rather fast. Model took off and as it was trimmed on the first maiden, I started to see how it performed.
Rolls on low rates were very axial and when I changed to high rates, the only difference was they were faster. Loops are as big as you want, stall turns are a dream, and it seems to do anything I want it to do, except the spin, but maybe that was down to me .
After a flight of 7 1/2 mins I lined it up for a landing, throttled down and she came in perfectly to about 3 ft from the ground, a touch of up elevator and 2 bleeps of power trim was all that was needed to put her down on the rear wheels, and as the ground speed bled off the nose wheel came down for a perfect landing.
The model needed 6 oz of lead to get the C of G right, which doesnt supprise me as it is a verry short nose.
Does it fly well?, YES IT DOES!!!! I had another 4 flights with it, and all the flights were great, and landings were perfect,
Its a great model, and all that is left to say is "Thanks Tony"

Garry
Last edit: 12 Jun 2013 09:07 by Garry Pollard.

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11 Jun 2013 17:03 #95 by Quorneng
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Gary
"and 2 clicks of power"
Your throttle clicks? :unsure:

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11 Jun 2013 19:48 #96 by The Beard
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Sounds a really nice model,well done both of you.

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11 Jun 2013 20:34 - 12 Jun 2013 09:09 #97 by Garry Pollard
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Quorneng wrote: Gary
"and 2 clicks of power"
Your throttle clicks? :unsure:


Sorry Quorneng, a slip of the tongue, what I should have said was a couple of bleeps, as I use the throttle trim on a DX7 for landing. Now edited.

Garry
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12 Jun 2013 19:44 #98 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Garry you use the throttle trim to land ???? in what way

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12 Jun 2013 19:54 #99 by Garry Pollard
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As an ex nitro man BB (Dont tell Grumps) I set up an electric as you would a nitro model, ie throttle trim open gives a fast tick over, closed kills the motor. This means that when i line up for landing I use the trim to control height, and rudder to control direction, dont forget I fly Mode 4 . Its so easy that way, and something I have always done . It works for me .

Garry

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12 Jun 2013 20:46 #100 by THE BLACKBIRD
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I thought there was only mode 1 and 2 , so if you are useing the throttle/rudder with one hand/thumb and the other is on the ailerons/elevator what do you use on the throttle trim,?? hmm not that long surely :) :) :)

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12 Jun 2013 21:06 #101 by Eric
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He's got throttle and ailerons n one stick, and rudder and ele on t'other, but I'm not sure which way around! :silly:

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12 Jun 2013 23:57 #102 by Garry Pollard
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Eric is quite right BB, but will try to explain fully.
I started flying donkeys years ago, and am self taught. I started on a 3 channel model, rudder and elevator on right stick, throttle on left. Then went to a 4 channel set up, and as there was no one to tell me, where did the ailerons go ? on the stick that was spare. So we land up with mode 4, ie rudder/elevator on right stick, throttle /ailerons on the left, There are 4 modes, mode 1 and 2 , which are the ones used the most, and mode 3 and 4 which are not used much at all. Worrying part is that I have taught well over 300 peeps to fly in the past, all on mode 4. It is a good mode for inverted flying , as when inverted, push a little down in on the right stick and steer with the left, no up and down movement with moving the elevator.
However, back to your question BB.
I always do a square landing pattern, left or right, doesnt matter. On the downwind leg I close the throttle progressivly, and on the 4th or cross leg the throttle is almost closed, but as the trim is fully open, i am on a fast tickover. Last turn the model is lined up with the center of the runway decending. I then am using the throttle trim to maintain height and the rudder to steer. Ailerons are not touched as model is level, and could cause a roll. progressive clicks on the throttle trim (down) causes model to lose height, till ti touches down under low power, model slows, and is then taxied to flight box where trim is closed which stops the motor. thats my method , and it works for me. All my flying is done by using both hands at the same time .
Hope that explains it

Garry

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13 Jun 2013 00:10 #103 by old fart
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I think I'll just stick to mode 1.

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19 Aug 2013 19:28 #104 by Ex-Member
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hope fully it will be ready for the nats.

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21 Aug 2013 18:45 #105 by Ex-Member
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desperately trying to get this finished.
just needs paint and final sealing tomorrow, i hope?

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