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03 Feb 2017 06:14 #61 by THE BLACKBIRD
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That is exactly right Simon, well described, it is a lot of work to make the plug and the white foam created more work, and I am still learning this fibre glassing, also this is the largest item I have attempted
But once done it will hopefully only be used once. :whistle:
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03 Feb 2017 12:31 #62 by Eric
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That's what I thought BB was doing, but to my mind, he is doing it inside out!
You want the perfect finish on the outside of the plug, not the inside!
If you dig back in the files, you will find that I posted how to make a glassfibre fuz - on here - about three or more years ago.
I always used a wood core, split lengthwise, then bolted back together, BEFORE the shape was carved, so it ends up symmetrical. Then the core is split, bolted down onto a flat plank, and the mould made in glass, in two halves.
When THAT has cured, they are eased off the plug, carefully aligned, drilled through the flange, for more bolts, and then you can make the fuz. The two halves can be released, returned to the mould, then the seams taped via the access hatches.
As you say, a lot of work for a one-off, but ideal if you intend to make dozens from the master.
Many years back, I used to work in a glass-fibre manufacturing place, (health and safety hadn't been invented, they'd be shut down, now, but they went bust instead!) and used to 'borrow' their tools for making my own plugs, during the lunch-breaks. I also managed to 'find' some surplus cloth, chopped strand, bandage, resins, and accelerators!
I'd have to buy it, now!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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03 Feb 2017 18:45 #63 by boz
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"Perks of the job" seem to be a thing of the past now, :( , boz

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13 Feb 2017 19:20 #64 by THE BLACKBIRD
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This morning I got Nat to give me a hand or two to get up to my little shed, once there I could rest on my chair which is on casters and move around a little
Anyway I managed to experiment with making a wing outer tube on a ally tube, I wrapped the ally tube with brown parcel tape sticky side out, then three wraps of some glass cloth I found, then sloshed some resin on it;




But I used the wrong cloth as it all pulled apart when I brushed the resin on, did not matter as it was only to see if I could actually get it off the pipe when it set
to my surprise it came off , so I will do another one to see if I can do a better job of it




onwards and upwards got to get the left hand side better trained :whistle:
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13 Feb 2017 19:34 #65 by Garry Pollard
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Tony, you amaze me !!!! The saying "You will never keep a good man down " MUST have been coined for you. You are raving mad , but I applaud you mate. I am privileged to call you my friend.
With that attitude, how can you fail. Keep at it

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13 Feb 2017 20:07 #66 by boz
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Well done, good to see your on the up, :)
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15 Feb 2017 18:29 #67 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Filled it with P 38 then rubbed it down ( good exercise for my left hand / arm ) sprayed it grey primer
then filled it again rubbed it down then sprayed it red primer




same again this time white primer
then did it all again finished grey primer again


In the morning ill rub it down then then do as many times as needed with primer filler rubbed down each coat
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15 Feb 2017 19:24 #68 by one tenor
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Nice to see you making progress but please take care.Waste of space won't have a clue what to do even if he had the inclination [badass]

Anything will fly given enough power
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15 Feb 2017 19:45 #69 by old fart
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one tenor wrote: ...........Waste of space........


Who is that??? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

There is nothing like a dream to create the future.

Electrickery is the work of the devil.

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16 Feb 2017 02:47 #70 by one tenor
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Old Fart wrote:

one tenor wrote: ...........Waste of space........


Who is that??? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:


Step son OF

Anything will fly given enough power
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16 Feb 2017 18:51 #71 by THE BLACKBIRD
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did some more this morning spent a couple of hours looking for and filling any blemishes

Then thought I would rub it down with wet & dry just started to rub it and the big bucket I Was using for the water decided it would part from its handle :( a lot of water all over my wood floor

Which is not good for it, shovelled as much out the door as I could then decided I would do it outside in the sunshine

Got started then it rained :angry: so had to move back under cover


finally got it cut back ready to spray with primer filler only to find my spray gun would not spray it for some reason, it worked ok when I did the Lancaster, so I slopped it on with a brush

Don't matter as I will sand it all off in the morning leaving on only what is in low spots
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19 Feb 2017 19:31 #72 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Im still filling sanding and painting, seem to be chasing shadows, every time I paint it it shows up more imperfections :S



I think it may be the p38 filler that im using, I think it is coming out of the tiny marks when I wet & dry it
I will use something else tomorrow
So I made a start on the wings, cut out the ribs, stripped some spars from 6mm sheet and stated to assemble


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20 Feb 2017 04:05 #73 by one tenor
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Use stopper ( like thick primer ) Also called knifing stopper.Fills all minor scuff ,scratches etc and leaves a silky smooth finish.Get it from Halfords etc

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20 Feb 2017 12:51 #74 by Eric
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I doubt that there's a Halfords in Cyprus, O.F!
BB, try using more water and less pressure, on the wet and dry. It looks like you are getting 'beads' of residue, which are then scouring the finished surface! Also try using a much finer grit!

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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20 Feb 2017 15:29 #75 by old fart
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Eric wrote: I doubt that there's a Halfords in Cyprus, O.F!
BB, try using more water and less pressure, on the wet and dry. It looks like you are getting 'beads' of residue, which are then scouring the finished surface! Also try using a much finer grit!


You mean O.T. ;) ;)

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