Fairey Firefly MK5 from Vance Mosher plan

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05 Dec 2020 14:04 #91 by crash happy
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Oh my, that is looking so good Ralph ! :woohoo:
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05 Dec 2020 15:54 #92 by Ralpharr2001
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Klipkopwildlife wrote: A word about GRBL Ralph, unlike Mach3 it doesn't have Cutter radius offset which is a bugger, you'll have to re-program everything by hand in Notepad++. What version of GRBL have you got?


Hi Klippy, I have V1.1 and using Universal GCode Sender which I think has the tool offset command. I will check though. Thanks for the heads up.

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05 Dec 2020 16:01 #93 by Klipkopwildlife
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Interesting, they're to V11, I think, but to my mind V9 is the best. Be very careful, it appears you can't save what's on your chip, if you don't like an iteration it's difficult to go back, it's gone.

Do it now, you may never get another chance
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05 Dec 2020 16:03 - 05 Dec 2020 16:04 #94 by Ralpharr2001
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Interesting. Looks like you'll be my 'goto' person when I stuff it up! :cheer: :cheer: Notice 'when' and not 'if' !!

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05 Dec 2020 16:22 #95 by paul d
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That's looking outstanding Ralph!!

balsa is best.
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06 Dec 2020 15:14 #96 by Ralpharr2001
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Started on the radiator ducts that sit on each side of the wing. Spent the whole day measuring, sanding, adjusting, sanding and filling with balsa, sanding. I also found out that a fan heater is not a good idea when you are sanding!! Bloody sawdust everywhere!! :evil:

Got quite a decent result. The hardest part was getting the fillet between the fuselage underside and inboard radiator frame to sit right. Its OK but will need more sanding to get it right. As the radiator intakes cross the front of the wing onto the cowl section I had to create a fillet but also allow the wing to come away from the fuselage. I will need to seal the wood inside the frames the add paint so I can fit the top and bottom skins. Then its more sanding and finally epoxy glassing the whole wing.










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06 Dec 2020 16:50 #97 by paul d
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Wonderful! I truly believe you just can't beat a model built from balsa.

balsa is best.
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06 Dec 2020 17:00 - 06 Dec 2020 17:01 #98 by Klipkopwildlife
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Klipkopwildlife wrote: Interesting, they're to V11, I think, but to my mind V9 is the best. Be very careful, it appears you can't save what's on your chip, if you don't like an iteration it's difficult to go back, it's gone.

Well I stuffed that up! My CNC router came with V0.7, I found V0.9 to be better, I was lucky I bought 5 of these

when they were still pennies and the postage was free!
I was able to upload different version to each one and select the one that I felt was best. None of them are perfect but all my machines are 64bit so that might be contributory.
In the 80's I wrote Machine Code programs for Z80 based machines, hence the interest.

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31 Jan 2021 16:44 #99 by Kjell Aa
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Hi,
Any progress to report here?

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31 Jan 2021 17:20 #100 by supertigrefan
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Dammit! I was hoping this was an update too!

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31 Jan 2021 19:30 #101 by Ralpharr2001
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No progress I'm afraid. Completed the Concorde and had a rest from building this weekend. Back on it next weekend, I promise! :)

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01 Feb 2021 09:06 - 01 Feb 2021 09:10 #102 by Rich griff
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Blimey, machine code, what fun.
Will read this thread from the begining.

You will know that fireflies where radio controlled as either missile targets or a tug for the target, over cardigan bay and operated from Rae llanbedr.

Then metiors then jindavics.

Saw a jindavics parked near road in Farnborough.

One crashed hitting a sand dune peak on approach and bits hit a car.

The servos where big, and the battery was embedded in a card front wing. Three foot to the left and it would have gone thru the passenger door, she was lucky, her and the driver.
The engine was still soldering when I arrived.
Jindavics landing where colourfully, a long trail of sparks from the landing skid.

A jindavics would be a good aircraft to model and RC, fan or jet powered, a good slope soarer subject as well.
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01 Feb 2021 09:57 - 01 Feb 2021 10:01 #103 by supertigrefan
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Just googled jindivic, I had no idea it existed.
Maybe one for Simon as a Depron project?

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01 Feb 2021 11:19 - 01 Feb 2021 11:22 #104 by Eric
Jindivic - popular target aircraft for surface-air or air-air gunnery.
If you had read my book Sea Story, or even one of the Vince series, they get mentioned!
There were various models, some powered by a piston/prop, and a later model- by a small (by those standards!) turbine. Usually catapult with jato launched (no runway on a frigate or RFA!) 'Landing' at sea was via deployable parachute, and 'rescued' by a small boat.
The radio in the versions we used was manufactured by Radio Control Specialists (RCS) of Hounslow - they also made (crappy!) hobby r/c gear using rubbery plastic Orbit servos. You could fit modern r/c gear including the servo's - into the rx case! Powered by a four cell 500 mah nicad.
Crappy - I had one. Big heavy steel box, with a big - I think PP6 9v - battery in it, good for about an hour of use, (later changed to a nicad) and a half-wave telescopic aerial. The (very slow) servos were five-wire, as discussed elsewhere, and almost centred, the electrical centre varied depending on the temperature and mood of the servo at the time!
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Jindivik was developed during the late 1940s and into the, early 1950s by Australia's Government Aircraft Factories (GAP) in response to a need by the RAF and RAAF for a cost effective, high performance target drone. One unusual aspect of development was that two manned examples, known as the Pika, ( and subject of a High Planes kit) were constructed and used for development work, with the first flight in October 1950.

To fulfill different missions, Jindiviks are able to be configured with many different equipment pods on the wings and fuselage, and several extended span wings can also be used depending on the altitude capability required during the mission Initial production Jindiviks Mk Is were very similar to the Pika (with the exception of the nose and cockpit area) but later variants from the Mk 2 onwards were fitted with more powerful Viper engines and incorporated many other changes, including the replacement of what must be the largest ever flush NACA type intake fitted to an aircraft with a more conventional open fronted type.

Jindivik is flown by a ground controller via radio control, take off being effected from a trolley, and landing being performed on a retractable skid in the belly. Typical missions for Jindivik include targets for fighter aircraft and ship defences, as well as radar targets for ground operators. When live firings take place, the intention is never to hit the Jindivik itself, but rather to aim for towed targets or achieve a near-miss with a missile, with the onboard equipment noting the miss distances for subsequent analysis.

Jindiviks are still operated by the RAF/RAE and the Royal Australian Navy, past operators including the RAAF/Weapons Research Establishment, Swedish Air Force with eight Mk 2 operated from 1959 till 1964, and the US Navy which operated 42 examples of the Mk 303 A from Pt Mugu during 1962. Over 500 examples had been produced by the time production ceased. This kit represents the Mk 3 or Mk 4 version with the Mk 8/9 pods.

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02 Feb 2021 10:39 #105 by Rich griff
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There is a book available about jindavic ops at Rae llanbedr, will dig it out for ISBN etc..

Stupidly I loaned someone my vidio which included fireflies and metiors and jindies but never got it back !

The lead staining on the firefly fuz was impressive.
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