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31 Mar 2017 03:57 #136 by boz
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I agree with you BB if they ain't what you wanted, they are second best,
As OT said think again, if you can't find an alternative solution, then use them.
If you don't you will always be wishing you had.
Having said that Ralph is right also, but it's not the choice you wanted, boz.

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31 Mar 2017 11:04 #137 by Klipkopwildlife
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Piano hinge like you used on the Bucker?

Do it now, you may never get another chance

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31 Mar 2017 15:58 #138 by THE BLACKBIRD
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I don't want to see the hinge from the outside, I have binned the one that was on it, :( not up to standard :dry:
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31 Mar 2017 16:28 #139 by one tenor
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That's why I suggested rods internally BB

Anything will fly given enough power
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31 Mar 2017 19:50 #140 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Hi John I know thank you, but I wanted to use these bloody hinges I have,
Anyroods I pressed on ripped the hatch off

And binned it then started to make and fit a new one using the hinges I had because I had worked out how to do it :P

Only when I had done it IT WOULD NOT OPEN :angry: :dry: :woohoo:
Sooooo version 3!!!! using the new hatch and with a bit of hacking and cursing, could not get the other apart so finished up with damage, but it will repair, and I cannot afford to waste any more of this ply as I only have enough for the other hatch and will not buy more @ 56 quid a 1200 + 600 sheet +carriage
Using a tube I have it working


And I managed to slice open 3 finger and a thumb all in one go :S
Just not safe to be out of bed at the moment :whistle:
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31 Mar 2017 20:59 - 31 Mar 2017 21:25 #141 by one tenor
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Blimey! does yer muther know yer out..Yep hinges much a suggested.How does the ply come to cost so much? That's robbery See if anything here helps
www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-i...-8#q=0.4mm+plywood&*
Even smaller sizes might help but there is a selection of sizes and prices
and here www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-i...m+plywood+600x1200&*

Anything will fly given enough power
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01 Apr 2017 08:19 #142 by boz
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Just another probably useless question, having been following this and most of the other builds on here for quite a while.
I was wondering if some of the obviously very talented metal workers, turners, (lathes) machinests, " I know"spelt wrong, could get together in a thread, and try and come up with something hand made, ie like for instance this hinge thingy that OT, was describing to BB,.
this is just an example, but what a benifit it would be to very serious builders, getting together to solve what appears to be ( just a hinge) that the design could be improved to suit not only BB,s problem, but hinge problems that builders must be having everywhere.
You all know I'm a novice on here re modeling, but piano hinges, and other diy home type hinges, are not really designed for models.
I'm ready for the "flack" lol,
Could be moved to another thread if spoiling BB,s build thread, "dare I say" fire away. :) :blush: :blush: :blush: , boz
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01 Apr 2017 08:54 #143 by Klipkopwildlife
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No flack here, I would say BB has come up with a very workable solution.

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01 Apr 2017 09:43 - 01 Apr 2017 09:43 #144 by Eric
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O.T. I suspect that B.B.'s problems on materials costs are more the import charges than the actual product, because it's a small market for aeromodelling woods in Cyprus.
Klippy has the same problem, getting items to South Africa. :(

if you are calm and collected when all about you are going berserk - you've missed something important!
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01 Apr 2017 10:24 #145 by boz
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Boys, the point I was trying to make, was not specific to BB,s hinge, it was more would it be possible for the engineering minded members to get together in a thread, to design a new type of hinge, or any other metal part that may be required by anyone on here, nothing specific.
I was using the hinge as an example, and OT,s description posted earlier, as an example,
Sorry if the post was not descriptive enough.
Instead of using parts usually made for home use, hope this helps, boz please move if spoiling thread. Boz.
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01 Apr 2017 11:46 #146 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Hi Eric the £56 was for the sheet of ply only, then on top of that is the P&P charge as it comes from the UK there is no charge this end, but I have to travel 20 mile each way to pick it up from the post office, and the last order I placed for wood which came to £134 the carriage charge was about the same amount, so a cancelled order
I brought that order when I was in the UK last September back with me on the plane, but it cost nearly as much, the only difference was my son paid for it ;) good boy
Thing was it was delivered F.O.C to me in the Wirral from slec
Boz you don't detract from my threads, that was a good idea you had
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01 Apr 2017 12:56 #147 by boz
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Post 12 from John,
Rods across hatches into formers with brass arms to lift as they open keeping edges sharp/Wish I could draw on here to show you. Use washers as bearing surfaces Experiment with a dummy
Would a tread on designing parts (not available) retail be of help? Just a thought, boz.

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01 Apr 2017 19:22 #148 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Started the repairs this morning where I destroyed it getting it apart :(

And here is the finished hatch all working, with todays blood on it, they say they fly ok if they have blood on them, this should be a cracker with all of it I have shed on this one :lol: I bushed the brass tube where it hinges and I fitted two powerful magnets to keep it close,, ill work something out to open it later :)

Tonight I started on the other one hopefully this one will go a bit quicker

At the third attempt I did the fairing between the fuselage and engine housing

Cut the plugs off the housing and glassed them




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01 Apr 2017 19:29 - 01 Apr 2017 19:32 #149 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Hers my Hysol

Been using it tonight to glue the magnets in, I don't use the nozzles unless it in a difficult place to get at, squeeze it onto a piece of cornflake packet an mix it, otherwise what is in the nozzle is wasted
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02 Apr 2017 19:57 #150 by THE BLACKBIRD
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Got the other hatch done in a couple of hours this morning :)

Been trying to work out the wing section quite an unusual shape

As im building it by looking at the 1/48th plastic model I have, and I have lost a whole load of parts
god knows where they are, things could get difficult :(
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